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Title: Wrench Identity?
Post by: kxxr on September 05, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
I'll try to describe the wrench I'm trying to identify in words before I make you suffer some more of my art work, but I'll make a picture if I have to: )
I saw a set of 4 or 5 wrenches, double open end with the ratcheting design on both ends. They looked to be 50s vintage or possibly much older. What was odd about them was that they had a large thickened rectangle taking up the middle third of the handles. On the rectangle was some information in small print stamped into the forge. I think one of them said "SW 1000" or something like that and then some patent numbers etc in smaller print. Does that sound familiar to anyone? I'd like to figure out what they are. The guy is asking $40 for the set and I'm thinking I might need them. I've tried searching them down but with so little info, I haven't had much luck. If you have ever seen them, you'll probably remember, they have a very distinct look. Don't make me draw a picture.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: keykeeper on September 05, 2011, 06:26:53 PM
Stevens Walden maybe??

Nope, found it. http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/other-makers-p3.html#simplex

Scroll down to Simplex, about 1/3 way down page.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: rusty on September 05, 2011, 06:42:17 PM
This thing?
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?store=snapon-store&item_ID=50908&group_ID=1156

I'm going to make you draw a picture LOL
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: keykeeper on September 05, 2011, 06:43:24 PM
Rusty,

See my edited post above!!!

Hee Hee, I feel like Quick Draw McGraw!!!
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: leg17 on September 05, 2011, 07:13:11 PM
I'll try to describe the wrench I'm trying to identify in words before I make you suffer some more of my art work, but I'll make a picture if I have to: )
I saw a set of 4 or 5 wrenches, double open end with the ratcheting design on both ends. They looked to be 50s vintage or possibly much older. What was odd about them was that they had a large thickened rectangle taking up the middle third of the handles. On the rectangle was some information in small print stamped into the forge. I think one of them said "SW 1000" or something like that and then some patent numbers etc in smaller print. Does that sound familiar to anyone? I'd like to figure out what they are. The guy is asking $40 for the set and I'm thinking I might need them. I've tried searching them down but with so little info, I haven't had much luck. If you have ever seen them, you'll probably remember, they have a very distinct look. Don't make me draw a picture.

I have a set of four.  Picked them up in the Chicago area about 25 years ago.  Can't seem to find out much about them.
I will reply again tomorrow.  They are apparently pretty rare.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: kxxr on September 05, 2011, 07:37:46 PM
I wondered about simplex wrench because of the SW too. But the panels on these wrenches are raised rather than indented. Not a very ergonomic design I wouldn't think, but makes for a very distinctive look. Ok, you asked for it, here's more art work:
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn48/kxxr/drawing.jpg)
What are they??
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: keykeeper on September 05, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
Hey, it was a WAG. Curious now myself. Someone will surely know.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: kxxr on September 05, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
I have a set of four.  Picked them up in the Chicago area about 25 years ago.  Can't seem to find out much about them.
I will reply again tomorrow.  They are apparently pretty rare.

 Can you photo them?
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: leg17 on September 06, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Yep, them's the ones!
I am at work and my computer at home is torn up.
But I will try to post more info this afternoon.
Tom
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: leg17 on September 06, 2011, 12:08:34 PM
Sorry I can't post photos.
I picked up four different wrenches in three separate purchases about 25 years ago at various flea markets in the Chicago area.
All four have the raised center panel stamped on one side with:
RATCHET ACTION
SPEED WRENCH

The two larger ones are stamped on the other side:
SW-1003(4)~USA
PATS. PENDING

The two smaller ones are stamped:
SW-1001(2)~USA
US PAT.3762244

The opening sizes are stamped on the head in the usual manner on the "RATCHET ACTION" side.
SW-1001 is 3/8 & 7/16
SW-1002 is 1/2 & 9/16
SW-1003 is 5/8 & 11/16
SW-1004 is 3/4 & 13/16

I have not ever seen any other sizes and only a couple of times in 25 years or so have I run across one of these anywhere.

Note: the larger ones marked "PATS. PENDING" appear to show a yellowish nickle plating and a strange rough texture to the main body of the wrench.  The heads and the center panel have been smoothed out, but not quite "polished".
The smaller ones with the patent number look more silvery like normal chrome plating and the main bodies had a different finish in the die that looks almost like any other un-polished forging.

If you search the patent, from the early 1970's, you will find the inventor as one James P. Evans and the assignee as SPECIALTY TOOLS.
I haven't found out much about that company.

Let us know if you end up with them.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: kxxr on September 06, 2011, 01:37:25 PM
Those are definitely the markings you mention. I can't recall now if it was a 4 or 5 piece set, but for $40 I might have to go see if they are still there. I'll try some more research with the extra info you've given. Thanks. kr.
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: lbgradwell on September 06, 2011, 04:40:24 PM
Those may have been sold on Snap-on trucks back in the early 1970s...

crankshaftdan had a couple for sale on GJ last year:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67014 (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67014)

There are some better shots at the bottom of this page:

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=49918 (http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=49918)

The 1971 patent shows assignment to Specialty Tools Inc. of Oklahoma. The parent company of Nupla (hammers, etc.) is also named Specialty Tools Inc.; I wonder if it's the same outfit? This same Specialty Tools Inc. also recently acquired Hisco Tools who were also located in Oklahoma City...

http://www.aftermarketnews.com/Item/25260/specialty_tools_acquires_hisco_professional_tools.aspx (http://www.aftermarketnews.com/Item/25260/specialty_tools_acquires_hisco_professional_tools.aspx)

Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: leg17 on September 06, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
Thanks for the links.  These are the rascals in question.
All good info and most probably accurate.
Thanks again.
Tom
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: leg17 on September 09, 2011, 06:55:23 PM
Wouldn't you know, there is one on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Open-End-Ratchet-Action-Speed-Wrench-/200649369728?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb7a26880
Title: Re: Wrench Identity?
Post by: kxxr on September 09, 2011, 09:46:57 PM
sure enough, leave it to ebay. I'm tempted to see if I can get the set of 4 for less than 40 bucks, or maybe with something in trade. I'll photo them if I have any luck.