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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Knucklehead on May 28, 2017, 01:27:46 PM

Title: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Knucklehead on May 28, 2017, 01:27:46 PM

I'm starting to get the old tool bug, but I don't want to become a full-fledged
collector, I've already done that with fly fishing stuff and guitars. I sold off
my high end fly rods, and all but five of my guitars. I'm getting ready for a
yard sale in a couple of weeks to flush the rest of it.
I've always had a passion for old stuff, picked up occasional tools with no
intent of building a real collection. I'm hoping with the absence of my other
stuff I don't fill the void with old tools as I don't want to leave behind a mess
for my family to get rid of.
Does anyone know of an antidote for tool collecting?

Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Papaw on May 28, 2017, 01:38:43 PM
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Does anyone know of an antidote for tool collecting?

Lack of money is my excuse.
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Bill Houghton on May 28, 2017, 02:11:24 PM
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Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: turnnut on May 28, 2017, 03:06:07 PM
   that is a tough question to answer, but if it helps, I will give you an idea. will it work ???
   I have never really thought about it, but here is a thought.

  # 1  always carry a pad and pencil with you.

   When the time comes that you see a tool that that you are giving a second look at, sit
   down and take out your pad and pencil and write down the pro's & con's of your need
   to but it in no less than 100 words. then study your reasons and see if it makes any
   sense on you buying it.

    if your answer is 50% to 50% go back and write 150 word pro vs con, and if you are lucky,
    someone else will buy it before your mind is made up.

     just a thought, good luck.
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Bad 31 on May 28, 2017, 03:38:30 PM
Hey Knucklehead, do you still have any old Sage fly rods or reels? I have a friend who collects them?
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Yadda on May 28, 2017, 03:45:04 PM
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Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Northwoods on May 28, 2017, 04:42:17 PM
   that is a tough question to answer, but if it helps, I will give you an idea. will it work ???
   I have never really thought about it, but here is a thought.

  # 1  always carry a pad and pencil with you.

   When the time comes that you see a tool that that you are giving a second look at, sit
   down and take out your pad and pencil and write down the pro's & con's of your need
   to but it in no less than 100 words. then study your reasons and see if it makes any
   sense on you buying it.

    if your answer is 50% to 50% go back and write 150 word pro vs con, and if you are lucky,
    someone else will buy iy before your mind is made up.

     just a thought, good luck.
You do that and someone will buy it out from under you!
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: leg17 on May 28, 2017, 05:25:29 PM
.........
Does anyone know of an antidote for tool collecting?

no
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: wvtools on May 28, 2017, 08:58:14 PM
Why would you want the antidote for that?

One way to limit collecting is to pick a singular focus or a narrow focus if you really want to limit it.  When I first started dealing in tools, I decided that I had to collect one type of tool or I would never want to sell anything.  I toyed with pliers and wrenches, but settled on measuring tools.  I still have gone a little crazy with it (800+ zigzags, 600 tape measures, and thousands of other things), but it still all fits in one room (barely).
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: EVILDR235 on May 28, 2017, 09:38:40 PM
I plan to be buried in a large red tool box. They can put my ashes in the drawer made for the Machinery's Handbook and my favorite tools in the rest of the drawers. Then they will lower me and my forever home into a cement vault and fill the vault with 200 gallons of J B Weld epoxy to protect me and my chrome plated iron goodies.

EvilDr235
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Chillylulu on June 04, 2017, 12:53:31 PM
I suck at limiting what I collect.  There are certain things I really like.

S-K tools, Plomb Tools, Craftsman Crown logo tools fron the 1960-1964 catalog, egg beater hand drills, unique ratchets, Stanley planes, steel levels, and about 25 other categories. 

But I will still buy a stupid 1970's Thorsen socket set for a good price. More change in my pocket than brains in my head, I suppose.

I spent the whole day yesterday pulling out boxes of wrenches and sorting them by manufacturer. There were literally thousands (well more than a thousand,  but probably less than two) wrenches. Just the combination, doe, and dbe types. Multiple from over 30 manufacturers,  and a box of single goofy or unidentified manufacturers. Almost all domestic.

I told myself years ago that I wasn't going to collect Snap On tools. Two months ago I bought a vintage top tool box and its almost full, just with Snap-On and Mac metric tools. I got it because the deal was great. Along with the other great deals there that day I spent another $300 on. But its O.K., $60 was spent on a 3/4" S-K socket set. 22 more sockets to house.

Last year I bought two of the Milwaukee tool boxes at Home Depot, right around fathers day.  In December I bought a wide Craftsman box set. All those, in addition to the two I already had, plus the Snap-On box. Just for my "users," except one stack that holds the 1960 Craftsman stuff. I was thinking about buying another wide set yesterday.

I can't even handle a wrench well anymore since nerve loss has progressed so far through my hands / arms. Being out of the shop just left time to attend more estate sales.

Chilly
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: p_toad on June 04, 2017, 05:15:08 PM
Chilly, sorry to hear about the nerve damage.   That might slow you down picking up rust at those yard sales.
I don't know any antidote to collecting stuff (i have tools AND hardware, but not enough too much of either.   I think i need a barn.
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Papaw on June 04, 2017, 05:22:54 PM
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I think i need a barn.

Don't we all?? I built a small shop some years ago and it is full of sh--STUFF! :smiley:
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: bill300d on June 04, 2017, 07:13:39 PM
I'd bet most of us could say that our shops are full of sh-tuff. Now if you ask the wife about my shop she leaves off the uff.
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: EVILDR235 on June 04, 2017, 10:04:07 PM
Not only do I collect stuff, but my wife collects stuff also. I use to have dresser drawers to keeps my socks and underwear in. I now keep my socks and underwear in paper bags in my computer room.

EvilDr235
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: turnnut on June 05, 2017, 10:44:32 AM
  I plead the 5th !
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Chillylulu on June 13, 2017, 12:00:01 PM
I'd bet most of us could say that our shops are full of sh-tuff. Now if you ask the wife about my shop she leaves off the uff.
Took me a second to get that. And that's my wife's favorite cuss word!  I've veen working hard as my broken body will let me. Im determined to high grade and be more selective. Always been more of a hoarder, but I'm going to sell off/ trade off the non-special tools and the duplicates. If I do that and move a few kilns down into the basement, I'll have room to make things again.

Chilly
 (determined to spring clean, even if it takes me through next winter)
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Bill Houghton on June 13, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
Chilly,

Pottery kilns?  Wood-drying kilns?
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: p_toad on June 13, 2017, 04:20:28 PM
Chilly,

Pottery kilns?  Wood-drying kilns?

Glass kilns?   Steel kilns?   Inquiring minds want to know.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Collecting Antidote?
Post by: Chillylulu on June 19, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
Mostly glass, but they work for tempering/ annealing. 3 commercial glass kilns.

Glass kilns tend to be shorter, with elements in the lid and sides.  More even heating, but they dont have to get as hot as ceeamic kilns. Most art glass is pretty well molten just above 1600º.  But at any point where it softens it becomes a matter of heat/time.  At 1250º it takes a certain amount of time to get some effect. At 1450º you can get to the same point a lot quicker.

My largest kiln is 25" x 48" but is only 13.5" deep. Its big enough to make a sink in.

I also have the remains of a tall ceramic kiln that one of the schools was getting rid of.  Someone cut the cord off the controller,  but everything still works. I'm breaking it down for its parts. Fire brick cab be used for a small foundry.   I also use fire bricks for gold/sikver smithing. It is soft and you can cut it to hold irregularly shaped pieces to solder. Additionally,  I like to line the area behind my annealing pan.

We've also got a refractory lined hot box that my son used when making bows. And a small kiln - old school with just two switches to control the heating elements.  Its pretty much an annealing kiln.

Chilly