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Title: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: coolford on February 02, 2018, 11:57:28 AM
Picked this vise up at a garage sale yesterday, guy didn't know what it was until I told him.  I took it home for $20.00.  It is a number 400 and heavy.  It is all there and workable.  I know Stanley bought Marsh in 1926 and the vise has both Stanley and Marsh marks.  So this is after 1926, but did Stanley ever take the Marsh name off before they quite selling them in 1984?
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: gibsontool on February 03, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
I have a 400 vise which only has Stanley on it.Your adjustment handles are red where mine are yellow. Mine has seen very little use and also has two wood rules which came with it and are in John Walters book as No 100 which were designed to go with the vise. I suspect mine was probably from the 1970s or 1980s. My daughter is moving this weekend and needs my help so I got no time to dig it out for pics.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: coolford on February 04, 2018, 02:48:01 PM
I appreciate the input, do you or anyone have an idea when the MARSH mark may have been removed from the vise.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: OilyRascal on February 04, 2018, 05:15:02 PM
I have one I found NOS in the box.  I suspect it is from the 70's  based on the markings of the box.  It does not have a Marsh marking.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: Bill Houghton on February 07, 2018, 07:36:36 PM
Can't directly answer the question, but I have noticed that Stanley tended to use the "purchased" name for a while before slowly making it disappear.  I'm a fan of the North Bros. Yankee tools (screwdrivers, push drills), with a loyalty to the actual North Bros. tools because North Bros. was headquartered in Philadelphia, my bride's hometown.  After Stanley purchased the company in 1946, they went through a period - not sure how long - of labeling the tools "North Bros, a division of Stanley..." before just labeling them "Stanley."

I wish there were more catalogs for Stanley tools; it'd be nice to be able to do a year-by-year comparison to find the change point for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: coolford on February 08, 2018, 05:34:39 PM
For now, I going to assume it dates from between 1930 and 1950 until I learn better.  That allows them 20 years to take the Marsh name off the vise.  Thanks guys for the input.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: Lewill2 on February 08, 2018, 07:10:59 PM
I have 2 Stanley Tool Catalogs, Both are marked as No 34, One is black cover Catalogue No. 34 and one is blue cover Catalog No. 34. The black cover is marked July 1932 Edition, the blue cover is marked 1950 Edition. The 1932 edition the picture frame vise #100 & #400 are advertised as Stanley Marsh Picture Frame Tools, There is a #410 Octagon Vise listed as well. The 1950 catalog just lists them as Stanley Picture Framers' Tools #100 & #400 and the #410 is no longer listed.
Title: Re: Stanley mitre vise
Post by: Bill Houghton on February 08, 2018, 09:33:24 PM
Can't help, but I looked up the #410 octagon cutter and found this literature: http://tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanley/stan-mbox/marsh-sw.pdf (http://tooltrip.com/tooltrip9/stanley/stan-mbox/marsh-sw.pdf).  Boy, I'd sure like to run across some of those little items!