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Blacksmith and Metal Working Forum => Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum => Topic started by: Mike H on February 19, 2018, 07:06:14 AM

Title: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on February 19, 2018, 07:06:14 AM
Picked up the 8 pieces shown for $4.00
Could have had a 20 lb. sledge for another $3

Combo wrench 5/8"  19/32" says Made in USA There is a tiny H at 90Deg. to the 5/8" stamp
1 1/4" Stanley Chisel
Cold Chisel 86A 1x8 ProtoProfessional USA 13/16" Cut
Center Punch 5/8 284 Hargrave USA
Blacksmith Hammer Warren 178 1(Lb?)
Plus the Putty Knife, Titebond Glue and Brush
Brush might have cost me that much; certainly the Wood Glue
Not too Bad; would appreciate any input on the hammer
Does 16" sound about right for handle length? What type hammer is that dude?
Thanks Mike H.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: oldgoaly on February 19, 2018, 09:12:12 AM
The hammer is a hot punch I believe.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on February 19, 2018, 10:26:22 AM
Thanks oldgoaly
When I Google that instead of the wild guesses I was searching
I come up with pics that look like what I have
Will try to find time to re-handle it
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: wvtools on March 04, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
Any sledge hammer 20 pounds or larger is worth a good bit.  I had a guy looking for one a few years ago.  He told me that getting a special order Chinese 20 pounds sledge from the hardware store was around 80.00.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Ken W. on March 04, 2018, 08:23:05 PM
I see sledge hammers at just about every sale I go to. Not many are over $ 8.00.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on March 08, 2018, 06:33:32 AM
I am now less ignorant than I was at time of original post
The 1 on the top of head of the Warren Hot Punch Hammer
refers to the Diameter of Face
Would Hickory be a correct (consistent with original) wood choice
for the handle?
Thanks, MH
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: gibsontool on March 16, 2018, 08:48:49 AM
I think Hickory would be the right choice for the handle. Probably just a shadow or something but it looks like the hammer is bent?
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: john k on March 16, 2018, 12:02:00 PM
The blacksmith handled punch could have had a 10-15 inch handle.   Since it is a held tool rather than a swung tool, the handles were not shaped, usually just enough for grasping.  You got a good deal there.   Can't wait for the garage sales to start up here again.  Is currently 33 degrees with freezing rain.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Yadda on March 16, 2018, 10:01:48 PM
Any sledge hammer 20 pounds or larger is worth a good bit.  I had a guy looking for one a few years ago.  He told me that getting a special order Chinese 20 pounds sledge from the hardware store was around 80.00.

I would probably tote home every sledge hammer I could find at $3.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on March 18, 2018, 06:10:28 AM
gibsontool
 the "snout" of the hammer is fairly straight;
main condition issue is pitting. I will probably
go over it again with a wire wheel and red "steel" wool
and wipe down with oil, then let it sit for a few days

John K
just to confirm my guessing-you got the workpiece heated up,
put the hot punch on it where you wanted the hole and
give it a good whack? Power hammer or hand blacksmith hammer/sledge?
Saw another hot punch hammer head at a garage sale yesterday morning
which was almost bent back around into a U shape

Ended up getting a piece of ash for $0.00
which is more than big enough to do a handle
Gotta go with that
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on June 21, 2018, 04:43:34 AM
I have had the re-handle of the hot punch hammer  in the OP done for some time as well as
a second one with a 3/8" Diam. face I got at  another estate sale just a couple weeks
later. The second hot punch hammer had a handle but it was pretty dried out,
cracking running length-wise. I had enough Ash left over from first to do the smaller hammer
so why not?
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: lptools on June 21, 2018, 07:10:27 AM
Hello, Mike. Nice job on the handles!!! Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: turnnut on June 21, 2018, 08:39:32 AM
Mike, they look A-O-K to me also, nice job. Frank
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: bill300d on June 21, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
Nice job on the hammers Mike.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: slip knot on June 21, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
very nicely done. I've got a new hot punch that needs a handle on it. I may have to give it a try.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: wvtools on June 21, 2018, 06:44:58 PM
My Sellens tool dictionary is packed away for a tractor show that I am going to, but I think the punch on the left is called a round punch and the punch on the right is a backing out punch.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Papaw on June 21, 2018, 07:44:37 PM
Sellens confirms that is a Backing Out Punch.
" A top tool with a straight shank used to drive out a tight-fitting pin or rivet. "
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: Mike H on June 22, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
Cool, the edge-a-macation continues.
Are you guys telling me that neither of these tools is intended
be used to punch a hole through a piece of red hot metal?
Or is this a secondary use?
I will have to check out the Sellens Tool Dictionary you mention.
Title: Re: Sunday Estate Sale
Post by: keykeeper on August 03, 2018, 12:55:21 PM
Nice job on the hammers Mike.


Those aren't hammers, they are struck tools. Meant to be struck to do their intended work.


I'd say the 1" is more of a straight punch, meant to be used to knock out large bolts on machinery rather than to punch a 1" hole in hot metal. Usually when the punch is straight sided, it is a backing out punch. Warren made lots of tools like this for various industrial uses. Blacksmith hot punches are usually tapered in profile.

Great find, either way.