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Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Topic started by: Jim C. on February 24, 2019, 06:36:07 PM

Title: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on February 24, 2019, 06:36:07 PM
A few weeks back, I bought the set of Sears Craftsman SAE taps and dies depicted below.  The tools themselves and the plastic case are in great condition for their age.  Based on the tools included, I'd estimate the set is probably from right around 1972.  Some of the tools have a pointed letter "A" in the word CR"A"FTSM"A"N and some have a flat top letter "A."  I wish I could say that I got a smoking hot deal on the set, but I didn't.  It was an eBay purchase where the seller accepted my best offer.  I paid a fair price for it.  Here's where things get interesting.  The set was described as "Complete."  Well it was complete, and from what I could see in the auction photos, everything looked good.  So, I made an offer, it was accepted, and a few days later the set arrived in the mail.  When I unpacked it, I was very pleased with what I initially saw.  I looked at every tool under a magnifying glass to make sure everything was vintage correct and undamaged.  Perfect......until I looked at the very last, and smallest tap in the set, the 4-40.  While EVERY other tool was stamped "Craftsman" and made in the USA, etc., the dead last tool I looked at, the 4-40 tap, was unmarked but for its size, which read, "4-40" and its origins, which read, "JAPAN."  Needless to say I was bummed.  Well, I had a few options.  I could contact the seller and complain.  The problem was that the set was described as "complete," which it was, and the seller never said all the tools were original to the set or all marked as Craftsman......and I didn't ask prior to making an offer.  I was sort of stuck with it.  My next option was to scour eBay looking for another vintage correct Craftsman 4-40 tap.  So, I searched eBay every day for about a week and realized it was going to be a tough tool to find.  My third, and best option, was to ask for help.  I thought about who I knew that might have the tap.  While a few guys came to mind, I had a feeling this one guy would likely have it.  The guy who collects everything.....coolford.  I reached out to him, he confirmed that he had exactly what I was looking for, and a few days later the tap was in my mailbox.  He gifted me the tap and truly helped me complete the set with the right tool.  I wanted to take a minute to thank him!  There’s a great tool enthusiast community here on this website.  It may not be the biggest, but it is absolutely the best.  Many thanks coolford!!

Jim C.     
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: p_toad on February 25, 2019, 10:01:57 PM
Too cool, Coolford.   Thank you both for sharing that!   :smiley:
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: coolford on February 26, 2019, 07:11:04 AM
Jim---looks even better knowing everything is correct.  Check the Owatonna socket wrenches in wrench forum.
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on February 26, 2019, 08:16:31 AM
coolford,

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!  Thank you again!

Jim C.
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Notlobster on March 02, 2019, 04:33:27 PM
Nicely done, coolford.

One of my prized possessions is that exact tap and die set, purchased new by my father ~ 50 years ago.

The Kromedge taps and dies are excellent! - I now have 3 sets.

Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on March 02, 2019, 05:23:13 PM
Hi Notlobster,

How about a few pictures of your Craftsman Kromedge tap and die sets?

Jim C.
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: lptools on March 03, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
Hello, Coolford . That was very gracious of you to help Jim complete the set , that would have been a long search for a tap that small, AND with the Craftsman stamp!!!!Regards, Lou
Title: Sears Craftsman Kromedge Tap & Die Set
Post by: lptools on March 03, 2019, 10:31:51 AM
Hello, Here is a Sears Craftsman 9 5200 SAE Tap & Hexagon Die Set that I have had for a while. Never been used, complete, I left the former owner's hand printed chart inside the lid. Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on March 04, 2019, 06:44:25 AM
Wow!  That set is mint Lou!
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: skipskip on March 04, 2019, 10:40:16 AM
Not Craftsman, but sold by Sears

Tools are marked 'Made in USA', but no brand name


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7834/40315973593_ebccfbf6c9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24qzUmZ)DSCF9976 (https://flic.kr/p/24qzUmZ) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7884/40315973383_4489475dfa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24qzUin)DSCF9978 (https://flic.kr/p/24qzUin) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7893/46557337574_2cc80bd96e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dW7wqN)DSCF9979 (https://flic.kr/p/2dW7wqN) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on March 04, 2019, 12:38:45 PM
Hey skipskip,

That’s a very nice old set!  It looks to be complete too.  Nice find.  Any story behind it?

Jim C.

Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: lptools on March 04, 2019, 02:57:25 PM
Nice!!!!!
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: d42jeep on March 04, 2019, 03:27:52 PM
Those look kind of familiar. Here are two that are results of trades.
-Don
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on March 04, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
I’d say they look very familiar!
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: lptools on March 04, 2019, 05:18:13 PM
Hello, Jim. Thanks!!! It is most likely unused by me due to the fact that I forgot where it was!!! Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Jim C. on November 25, 2019, 07:34:47 PM
I recently picked another gently used Sears Craftsman SAE tap and die set.  Based on the set number, 5213, I'd guess this set was available between 1964 and 1968 give or take. 

Jim C.   
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: p_toad on November 26, 2019, 10:34:17 PM
nice.   i've never run across one of those...did pick up an interrupted pipe tap some time back...i'll have to get a picture.
Title: Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
Post by: Bill Houghton on February 11, 2020, 09:28:01 AM
Back when they were still selling proper adjustable dies, I see.
(http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24441.0;attach=57503;image)

The later hex dies have their place - I've used them with a wrench once or twice, when I couldn't fit the die handle into the space - but it would be nice to have a set with adjustable dies, even if I only use the adjustability once in a blue moon.