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Title: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: jimwrench on August 02, 2019, 07:28:03 PM
 Got this plane at auction tonight. Don't know how old it is but Stanley Rule and Level marking on cutter tells me it is fairly old. Don''t find a type study for this plane. Any info appreciated.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: mikeswrenches on August 03, 2019, 04:13:46 AM
Nice score Jim, for what it’s worth, it is pre 1920, but you probably know that.

You can find more information at Pat Leach's site below.

http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan10.htm

Mike
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: stanley62 on August 03, 2019, 12:14:19 PM
Very Nice!!

 Jim
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Lewill2 on August 03, 2019, 04:11:49 PM
Stanley62, looks like it is almost broke in two, I think he should send it out to you so you can fix it.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 03, 2019, 07:22:09 PM
Well, that was a score!  They're uncommon tools.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: mikeswrenches on August 04, 2019, 03:54:09 AM
Well, that was a score!  They're uncommon tools.

As long as you have the plane, keep an eye out for the 'bull nose' attachment and the 'beading' attachment. Beading attachment also comes with 6 or 7 beading tools, which are usually mia. They are quite rare.

Mike
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 04, 2019, 08:12:23 AM
Patrick Leach, in his long essay on Stanley planes, says the cutters on the beading/molding attachment to the No. 72 are identical to those sold for the Nos. 66 and 69 beading tools, and Lie-Nielsen sells sets for their version of the No. 66.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: stanley62 on August 04, 2019, 10:34:47 AM
I agree with Lewill!!!  It should probably move to California where I could nurse it back to health!...  Lol,  just kidding Dad (Jimwrench).  Again, nice find.

 Jim
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 04, 2019, 12:34:25 PM
Jim,

That’s a real nice find!  Congratulations.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 04, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
I agree with Lewill!!!  It should probably move to California where I could nurse it back to health!...  Lol,  just kidding Dad (Jimwrench).  Again, nice find.

 Jim

Are you guys related?
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: stanley62 on August 04, 2019, 12:53:53 PM
Jimwrench is my Father.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 04, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Based on your earlier comment, that’s what I was thinking.   It’s nice that you share an interest in old tools.  Son or not, I don’t think he’s giving up that recently acquired #72.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 04, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
Got this plane at auction tonight. Don't know how old it is but Stanley Rule and Level marking on cutter tells me it is fairly old. Don''t find a type study for this plane. Any info appreciated.

Jim,

Believe it or not, there is a Stanley #72 Type Study.  I have it, but like the 60 series block plane Study that coolford was looking for a while back, it’s too big to post on the site.  I’ll dig it out, have someone scan it onto the computer and then attach it to an email if you’re interested.  Let me know.

Jim C. 
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 04, 2019, 03:05:09 PM
While these aren't common tools, I do wonder about their application: most planes are best on work that runs through, and a lot of chamfers on traditional work are not through chamfers, but stop as they approach joints.  The Stanley 65 spokeshave seems to have been designed for such chamfers, but I'm wondering if the cabinetmaker used the spokeshave to start the work, then transitioned to the 72 for the bulk of the run - ?

I ask partly because I bought myself a Stanley 65 spokeshave some time back (another tool that's languished as I try to get the refurbishing of the house done - which will take forever at this rate!).
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: jimwrench on August 04, 2019, 06:48:13 PM
 Jim C thanks for the offer. My email is Jim Stanley 80 @ Gmail.com
 I'm guessing its a type 2 and knowing for sure won't change things.
Sorry Stanley62 you willhave to come back here to feel it.
Got a Stanley 50 at same auction Looks like a type 5. Has no cutters and missing a lot of plating. Stuck a 45 cutter in it for fun.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 04, 2019, 06:59:13 PM
Okay Jim, I’ll get it out and get it scanned.  It might take a few days, but I’ll get it to you.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 05, 2019, 07:14:24 AM
Sorry Stanley62 you willhave to come back here to feel it.
Clever way of getting your son to stop back for a visit, although, if my parents lived in Illinois or much of anywhere in the Midwest, I think I'd wait for the summer humidity to pass before visiting.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 05, 2019, 03:10:21 PM
Jim C thanks for the offer. My email is Jim Stanley 80 @ Gmail.com
 I'm guessing its a type 2 and knowing for sure won't change things.
Sorry Stanley62 you willhave to come back here to feel it.
Got a Stanley 50 at same auction Looks like a type 5. Has no cutters and missing a lot of plating. Stuck a 45 cutter in it for fun.

Okay Jim, the Stanley #72 Type Study is on its way to you via email.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: jimwrench on August 05, 2019, 04:04:27 PM
Thanks Jim appreciate your thoughtfulness.
Heres some photos of the Stanley 50 I got at friday night auction. Not great but I only have 12.50 in it.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: lptools on August 05, 2019, 04:16:21 PM
Hello, Jim. That's a nice one, usually most of the plating is gone!!! Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: stanley62 on August 05, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
I’ll be there in late October to check out the 72 and head to the MVWC fall meet.

Jim
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: jimwrench on August 10, 2019, 09:22:49 AM
 Got type study from Jim C (thanks)
Not a clear cut type.Body is type 4 but without (s) casting mark. Lever cap no(s) mark.Star wheel is brass which is type 3. cutter is RKS TM-J which is type 3
Thinking it is a type 4 with star wheel and cutter from type 3.
Anybody got a better classification?
Please don't tell me its Frankenstein concoction of different plane parts.
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 10, 2019, 11:55:52 AM
Keep in mind that no one provided the type studies to the production departments at Stanley; in many cases, they may have used up inventory of a given part before starting to install the new part, in a way that's not consistent with the type studies.  Poor production managers, using the Wrong Parts in their planes...
Title: Re: Stanley No 72 chamfer plane
Post by: Jim C. on August 11, 2019, 06:11:18 AM
Hey Jim,

I honestly don’t think you have anything to worry about.  I’m with Bill on this one.  Stanley was in business to make money.  They didn’t waste inventory.  Parts were interchangeable, although little changes and/or improvements were made to various models throughout their production.  I’ve seen MANY planes that were 100% factory original with a mix of parts typically consisting of two back-to-back “types.”

Jim C.