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Farm and Implement Wrenches and Tools => Farm Implement Wrenches and Tools => Topic started by: amertrac on June 13, 2011, 04:15:17 PM

Title: square nuts
Post by: amertrac on June 13, 2011, 04:15:17 PM
A little of topic but interesting. the first complete restoration was a 1946 Piedmont tractor, every nut and bolt was removed every part cleaned and painted . When i put it together i replaced a lot of rusted bolts, I wanted it to be perfect for it's first competition.
the judge came to my tractor and said, you did a wonderful job but i can not judge this machine because the square bolts and nuts have been replaced with newer type six sided . I searched for a week for bolts and nuts( I threw the old ones away)an old lady in the post office heard me talking to a friend about the bolts and said that her late  husband had a pail of ol bolts in her cellar that i could have.  My tractor got six straight firsts in the next shows . bob w.
                               
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: eddie hudson on June 13, 2011, 05:03:46 PM
NEVER throw anything away!
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Papaw on June 13, 2011, 06:36:43 PM
Especially square nuts!
A friend of mine that restores old Indian motorcycles once lost a point in a show because two nuts on the bottom of the front end were not Parkerized like the originals! He did win, however, with a score of 98.5 in a scoring system that deducts from 100.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Lewill2 on June 15, 2011, 05:18:01 AM
As always don't forget to checkout the bible of hardware, McMaster Carr. They have several styles and finish selections of square nuts in their catalog as well as square headed bolts. The square headed bolts will carry the current grade markings but those could possibly be removed if required. I have also found that Fastenal will special order items not normally carried. I don't know if they would or could special order these.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Donny B. on June 15, 2011, 08:16:51 AM
I never discard a square nut!
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: bc_z on June 16, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
scolded once - lesson learned - many of the independent hardware stores will still have a great stock of square heads, if new is what you need.  Great comeback!!

bc_z
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Nolatoolguy on June 28, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
NEVER throw anything away!

I TOTALLY AGREE
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: RedVise on June 29, 2011, 06:59:45 AM
scolded once - lesson learned - many of the independent hardware stores will still have a great stock of square heads, if new is what you need.  Great comeback!!

bc_z

 I could not find small brass square nuts to finish my Gerstner tool box.
As I was not able to fix the wood damage I decided to clean up the PO repairs by using brass hardware. I ended up ordering them online via a dealer and believe they were sourced overseas.   Nobody locally or online seemed to stock them. 

Brian L.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Ken W. on July 06, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
I'm ashamed to say this but I just scraped at least 6 buckets of square nuts and bolts that were in my garage taking up space.I replace them on my equipment with better grade hex bolts and nuts.It's more convenient to use hex.  :-[
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Branson on July 07, 2011, 06:10:13 AM
I'm ashamed to say this but I just scraped at least 6 buckets of square nuts and bolts that were in my garage taking up space.I replace them on my equipment with better grade hex bolts and nuts.It's more convenient to use hex.  :-[

Nuts.  Next time send them out.  I constantly use square nuts, for example,  in various living history applications.  Have to,  for the sake of authenticity.  Besides, I like their look.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Stoney on August 23, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
Anyone who needs square nuts, square head bolts, square head lag bolts all in black finish as well as carriage bolts in black finish, contact Blacksmiths Depot (828) 667-8868 or Back to the Land  (931) 764=0034
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: keykeeper on August 24, 2011, 05:19:07 AM
Stoney,

I've dealt with Blacksmiths Depot. Great folks to deal with. Top notch service!

As for the topic of square nuts/bolts, I just "rescued" about 10 pounds from some "junk" my brother hauled off from a friends father's place. If I would not have went through the stuff, it would be bound for the scrapyard right now!
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Branson on August 24, 2011, 06:33:49 AM
Anyone who needs square nuts, square head bolts, square head lag bolts all in black finish as well as carriage bolts in black finish, contact Blacksmiths Depot (828) 667-8868 or Back to the Land  (931) 764=0034

Thanks for the info.  I had good luck with Kayne and Son (Blacksmiths Depot) some years ago, but didn't know they had the square nuts -- or maybe they didn't when I did business with them.  Both are online.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Aunt Phil on August 24, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
I've got a couple hundred pounds of NOS 1/2" stovebolts in the original boxes both round and flat head stashed in one of my trailers.  Might get around to putting some on ePay since the boxes are probably collectable to somebody.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: Jim C. on August 29, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
NEVER throw anything away!

AMEN to that!!!!!  Whenever you're restoring a vehicle, machine, etc., NEVER EVER discard any original parts, including the nuts and bolts!!!!!!  Even if you don't use some parts because they are unsafe or deteriorated beyond restoration/use, keep them simply for reference purposes.  When I was reading the original post, I knew where it was going, and my head almost exploded!!!!!!

Jim C.
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: rusty on August 29, 2011, 05:13:38 PM

Try finding a triangular washer sometime...the hardware store folks look at you funny and start making surriptitous phone calls to the local mental hospitol...

(They are used on the bottom ends of certain outboard motors....they like fall into the ocean...)
Title: Re: square nuts
Post by: gibsontool on September 26, 2011, 06:45:15 AM
Can anyone shed some light on roughly when square bolts and nuts stopped being in general use, Thanks Jim