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Picture Forum => Picture Forum => Topic started by: rusty on July 22, 2012, 06:38:48 PM

Title: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: rusty on July 22, 2012, 06:38:48 PM

A tractor is a tool right?

Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Papaw on July 22, 2012, 06:52:20 PM
The correct tool for that job, anyway!

:Lots of small buildings have been skidded into new locations.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: john k on July 22, 2012, 07:44:51 PM
Neat old pic, imagine standing out in the snow with a box camera, then hurrying inside before the film froze.   The tractor is a cross motor, IHC Mogul?   Big tread extentsions too.   I had my house moved in professionally, and moved my shop by myself, but both on wheels. 
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Papaw on July 22, 2012, 08:27:58 PM
I'm guessing an Avery Tractor.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: rusty on July 22, 2012, 08:34:50 PM
>I'm guessing an Avery Tractor.

I had to shrink the photo a little to make the forum happy.
On the original you can read Avery on the front.

That tractor is scary enough looking on normal terrain, I can't imagine those front wheels and top heavy frame in 3 feet of snow....

Also, that appears to be just a section of house, I am guessing they cut the house up to move it and nailed it back together..?

There is a large church near me thay they tell me was moved up the river that it is next to during a very cold winter when the river froze several feet thick.
I guess the old timers knew what they were doing, it would be really really embarressing to have your church sink....
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: john k on July 22, 2012, 10:33:07 PM
I stand corrected, but wide open that tractor might make 4.2mph, so I think it was controllable.  *S*
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Plyerman on July 22, 2012, 10:42:33 PM
An early mobile home perhaps?


Heh-heh, neat picture.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on July 24, 2012, 08:02:02 AM
I'm betting that he kept the fuel and the lube oil in the house at night.  Starting that on a cold morning had to be something of a chore.

Summer photo of a small Avery. They made some that were locomotive size.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: OilyRascal on July 24, 2012, 08:20:42 AM
Starting that on a cold morning had to be something of a chore.

WHAT?  No ether in an aerosol can?  j/k - ether is as off limits as your mother's diary around here.

You have to appreciate I'm a "young 'un" - had no idea how hard older engines were to cold start until recently when I started driving the '65 Ford daily.  I'm guessing it is difficult due to the design of the fuel delivery, more specifically the pump being actuated only by the engine turning over.  But again, that's a guess on my part.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: rusty on July 24, 2012, 06:36:30 PM
>WHAT?  No ether in an aerosol can?

We used to call it canned ringburn for a reason -P

>had no idea how hard older engines were to cold start until recently when I started driving the '65 Ford daily

In some respects it is amazing they started at all. The starters were slower, less vacuum, low excess horse power at slow speed , less air to atomize the fuel, weaker spark,(There is a reason magneto's were used on old cars long after ignition spark worked well).
And then there is just the cold air...fuel just doesn't like to evaporate in cold air...

Diesels and kero engines were even worse off, diesel is all about temperature, below a certain starting temperature, it just isn't physically possible to compress the air/fuel enough to get it to the explosion temperature.  The gas start/kero run tractors at least had something that would ignite...

Lots of folks back in the day just put their cars in the garage every winter and took the train to work, then took the car in the summer....just the way it was..

Even after cars were reasonably well behaved in cold weather, I remember my grandfather having fits because his Ford tractor refused to start and he wanted to plow the snow off the driveway....

We are very spoiled ;P
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Plyerman on July 24, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Now see, in Australia when the tractor don't start, they just reach for this



(http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/start-ya-bastard.jpg)
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Papaw on July 24, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
Need some of that here!
(http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/start-ya-bastard.jpg)
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Rustn Dust on July 25, 2012, 04:52:34 PM
Starters Rusty???  On those old tractors think hand cranks, trying to spin a cold engine, broken arm on kick back, etc.  Some of those old engines could be switched between kerosene and gas, but I'm not sure how.  Changing the intake manifold I think.  I'm pretty new here, but glad I found this site.  It's the most interesting I've seen.
Title: Re: Moving the old fashioned way
Post by: Branson on July 25, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Need some of that here!
(http://www.woodenboatfittings.com.au/public/start-ya-bastard.jpg)

Shoot, I need some just to sit visibly on a shelf.  Love the product name; it's so... Australian!