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General Discussion / Re: Buyer's remorse
« Last post by EVILDR235 on September 18, 2017, 09:42:22 PM »
Hi, my name is EvilDr235 and I have been a tool hoarder since 1970 when I got my first real job. Remember Norm on Cheer's ? That's me when I walk into anyplace that sells new or used tools. The store employees always yell EvilDr235 when I walk in the door.

General Discussion / Re: Tap wrench question, no picture.
« Last post by EVILDR235 on September 18, 2017, 09:37:10 PM »
like I stated above, I believe the OK brand is well made, but with a lessor finish on them. I have seen lots of sets of Little Giant brand taps and dies. I buy them once and awhile as single pieces. Little Giant seems to be very popular and most of time very costly. Also most little Giant sets I see are for tapping and threading larger things that I don't work on that often. Most tapping and threading I do is 1/2 inch and smaller. I will buy any size if the price is right. Also I try to avoid most Asian imported tools. I do like German, Swiss and English made tools.

General Discussion / Re: Buyer's remorse
« Last post by Northwoods on September 18, 2017, 07:29:21 PM »
I'm not a hoarder.  I'm a tool enthusiast.
Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum / Re: Any info on this vise?
« Last post by pritch on September 18, 2017, 07:15:53 PM »
Personally, I'm more interested in the little 40lb Vulcan anvil, that guy's a cutie :3

Don't suppose you're anywhere in Minnesota, and looking to part with it?

Well, I'm in Utah. I haven't really decided about it yet, I'll let you know when I do.

And thanks to everyone else for the info on the vise. I'll give everything a good soaking with Gibbs (my preferred brand) and see what happens.
Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum / Re: need help ID machine tools collets and??
« Last post by rustyfordgarage on September 18, 2017, 07:07:00 PM »
Maybe a tool for grinding high speed steel tool bits on a surface grinder?  It almost looks like it should fit a collet if the piece with the clamping bolts is removed but hard to tell. I have ran across a few different collet indexers lately but nothing quite the same.
That is a very good book if you find a rare high end tool.  It is also good for dreaming -- "why can't I find some tools like that".  A friend of mine found a machinists' corner level that is in that book.  He got 1100 for it on Ebay.
What's-It Forum / Re: Vintage Plane(s) Help
« Last post by wvtools on September 18, 2017, 04:08:11 PM »
The transitional is an earlier pre-lateral plane.  It has no lateral adjustment lever.  Depending on the make and model, you may be able to sell it for parts on Ebay.  Someone may be looking for the frog or handles.  Look on the toe for the brand and model number.   Depending on the width, the parts you are missing can go quite high.  I once sold a lever cap for a Stanley transitional for a 2 5/8 inch blade for about 40.00, including shipping to Canada. 

I sell a lot of plane parts on Ebay, and I do not think the Sargent is worth fixing up.  It looks like a Dunlap (Sears brand) to me.  I think the screw in the frog for the cap may be a replacement also.  It looks too long.
What's-It Forum / Re: Anyone know what this is?
« Last post by bill300d on September 18, 2017, 03:22:05 PM »
Yes it is.
What's-It Forum / Re: Vintage Plane(s) Help
« Last post by Bill Houghton on September 18, 2017, 02:27:00 PM »
You might wander down to your local library and see if there are basic books on woodworking that include hand tool chapters.  "The Hand Plane Book" focuses entirely on hand planes, and will give you a lot of detail; but even a basic book will help.  In the meantime, this might get you started:

You're missing the (cutting) iron, the chipbreaker, and the lever cap for both.  The irons are more or less interchangeable among different planes (mostly), with some exceptions; the big issue is width, which will tend to be 1-3/4", 2", 2-3/8", or 2-5/8" (there are some really small planes, shorter than 9", that take 1-5/8" or even narrower irons; I can't tell about the all-metal one as to length from the photo).  The bedding space will be a tad wider, to give you working room to tilt it side to side.  The chipbreakers and lever caps vary somewhat from plane to plane, often enough that they don't interchange.  Height of the adjusting tab and of the screw on which the lever cap pivots are the issues.

The wood-and-metal one is called a "transitional," from the mistaken belief that these were a transition from the all-wood-but-the-cutting-iron-and-chipbreaker planes to the metal-bodied planes.  The big issue here is warpage.  Find a straight edge longer than the plane body and hold it along the sole (bottom): along the length and diagonally corner to corner both ways, while sighting against the light.  If you see big gaps, it's not worth fussing with right now; you'd need another plane and some experience to get it straight.

The all metal one is probably a Sargent.  Is it worth fixing up?  Well, it'll depend on how little you have to spend to get the relevant parts, and what your time vs. money budget is (if money is tight, time is how you invest; but you can get trapped into spending way too much time on a not very successful outcome).  If you go to WoodNet's "Swap and Sell" page, you can get a ready-to-roll used plane for not big money.  Still, if you want to try, and money is tight, you can look around on eBay and the like for plane irons and lever caps.  Just know that you're taking a chance that they won't fit.

If you want a plane to get started with hand tool woodworking, and you're not sure how to find what you want, consider places like WoodNet (the buy/sell place there:, which tends to have pretty trustworthy sellers.  If you're getting started with hand tool woodworking, you want a jack (No. 5) or smooth (No. 3 or 4) plane.

Again, check out your local library's offerings to get an idea of what kind of basic toolkit you might want if doing hand tool woodworking.  You'll probably find multiple books, which will somewhat contradict each other; read them all, and make your own best judgment as to how to get started.
Daily Quote / Quote of the Day 9-18-2017
« Last post by Papaw on September 18, 2017, 01:40:57 PM »
Some problems are so complex that you have to be highly intelligent and well informed just to be undecided about them.
Laurence J. Peter
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