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Offline Wrenchmensch

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Unusual Ford wrench
« on: May 08, 2011, 12:57:30 PM »
I have seen two of these over the past ten years or so.  This one I bought. Any thoughts by anyone on what it was used for or on?

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 04:37:29 PM »
>Any thoughts by anyone on what it was used for or on?

Square spark plugs?
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 06:30:27 PM »
I have alot of Ford tool information and have never seen any reference to a square socket on the sparkplug headnut wrench.  The open end of that wrench is for the sparkplug, the box end for the head nuts.  I could be wrong but maybe the square end of that was modified.

I did just recently purchase a Ford brace wrench 3Z-684 which has a 19/32" square socket that is used on the running board bolt nuts.     The 5Z-156 L socket wrench also has a square socket.  It looks like it may be 19/32"also. This wrench is used on main bearing bolts.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 07:12:57 PM »
Bob,
There was a picture of this wrench in the Missouri Valley Wrench Club Newsletter some time ago. That is the only other one I have seen. Was that yours? Does it look like the square box end has been modified? The T5893 number is same found on the regular Ford Model "T" spark plug/cylinder head wrench.

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 08:03:15 PM »
Bob,
The T5893 number is same found on the regular Ford Model "T" spark plug/cylinder head wrench.


Yes, and this believes me to think it has been modified. I do notice the Moore Drop Forge mark on it, so maybe they made this version, but I doubt it. There is a good Ford forum called the "Ford Barn", that may have more info. as well.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 08:12:54 PM »
Bus,

Yes, it's the same wrench, but now I have seen a second one.  This leads me to believe Moore made the wrench for some special purpose designated by Ford. 

BR Wrench,

The square opening on this wrench is 11/16".

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2011, 09:55:24 PM »

This leads me to believe Moore made the wrench for some special purpose designated by Ford. 

I wonder why they would leave the old part number on the wrench?

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 01:09:10 PM »
One thing hit me about the square sockets 11/16" size.  The most common nut size on the Model T is 11/16" How many 11/16" square nuts could be found on Model T Fords?

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 03:45:07 PM »

Do you suppose it is possible that ford was thinking originally of using square head bolts?
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 07:15:02 PM »
Could it be for ford tractors? 

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 08:39:18 PM »
RE: the Ford tractor application for this wrench, I was wondering the same thing today.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2011, 06:18:25 PM »
RE: the Ford tractor application for this wrench, I was wondering the same thing today.

The Fordson tractor would be the tractor that would be of the same era as the above Model T wrench.   The early Fordson headnut sparkplug wrench looks like the Model T wrench but it had a different part number and was marked Fordson.  When the Ford 9N tractor came out in 1939 it used the same sparkplug/headbolt wrench as the Ford cars of the time.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2011, 08:36:43 PM »
I was thinking more of the 50 or so prototypes which would explain the rareness. I dismissed the first Ford tractor company. The only real result from it was the Nebraska tractor laws.

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2011, 03:49:49 PM »
I have seen two of these over the past ten years or so.  This one I bought. Any thoughts by anyone on what it was used for or on?
The heads of the Model T and Model A main bearing bolts are square

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Re: Unusual Ford wrench
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2011, 05:12:54 PM »
>The heads of the Model T and Model A main bearing bolts are square

Unfortunatly, they are also 1/2" , on both the A and T.
Except when they are not square...

In any case, there was a wrench for the mains, with a different number...
(more than one in fact, the non-square bolts take a funky weird wrench..)

The other problem is the head bolts aren't 11/16 either, they are 3/8 or 7/16...

It's always possible they just plain screwed up making the wrench, accidently taking old stock that had a ford number in it from the forging dies. The wrench shape is fairly generic, and I can see it being used for making some other special purpose wrench...
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.