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Offline Carl Wagner

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4" adjustable. Need some help
« on: May 05, 2013, 04:37:33 PM »
Found a 4" wood handle adjustable monkey wrench. Has a "H inside a diamond" what's one like this worth?
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2013, 04:42:34 PM »
Got to have a picture of this Carl!!
4" wooden handle???
 I got to have a picture NOW!!!  heehhe
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2013, 04:45:58 PM »
I want to see it also!

Look here, Carl- http://www.wrenchingnews.com/wrench-logos/logos-page-1.html

Scroll down a bit- Herbrand used an H in a vertical diamond.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 05:08:44 PM »
Here it is. Has a hefty $50 price tag. If it was cast and came with a plow id know all about it. These I'm not so schooled on.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 06:05:52 PM »
Carl, The reason everyone, including me, is interested is that the only known 4 in. wood handled monkey wrenches are the so called "baby coes" wrenches and these are right at 4 5/8 in. long, not 4 in.  The one you pictured looks a little out of proportion. i.e. the handle looks a little short compared to the body.

A couple questions,  how far do the jaws open; how long are the jaws; and what is the length from the top of the fixed jaw down to the bottom of the adjusting nut?  Also how wide and how thick is the bar?  I can check these dimensions against a baby coes and see how they compare.  You never know when an unknown wrench will surface.  Maybe this is it.

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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 06:11:50 PM »
An old lady owns this one. Said it was her husbands. Ill check some measurements toward the end of the week. I'm familer with the baby coes. I'm 99% sure this one has not been tampered with.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 06:13:03 PM »
It is certainly not a Coes that I have seen before. Is the H in a Diamond neat enough to be a maker's mark, or is it home made looking up close?
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 06:15:28 PM »
Definatly a makers mark. Its stamped or pressed. Not engraved. She has a 5" Acme as well.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 06:21:27 PM »
And the measurement was 4" on the money. Like I said. Its looks to correct to be tampered with. The wood handle is aged correctly and shaped. The nut appears right with no threads out the bottom. Someone took a huge amount of care if they faked it thrn threw it on a board with a few worthless commons and forgot about it for xxx amount of years.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 06:22:36 PM »
Chances are Bus or Stan will see this thread and enlighten us.
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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2015, 06:38:25 AM »
I was looking thru the old wrench threads and ran across this one.  I don't think we ever reached a satisfactory conclusion.

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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 08:18:36 AM »
I have never seen one. I would think it was well worth the $50.00.

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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2015, 08:53:00 PM »
Given it appears to not have been used, one might speculate about a machinist's "proof of mastery" project that survived from the bicycle era.  However, usually those were all metal, and unmarked.

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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 10:04:17 PM »
Carl,  on the cogs and adjusting nut,   do the cogs look like they go into the handle,
or is there steel stock near the handle ?

I hope you get what I am driving at. if the cogs do not go near the handle, I would
assume that it is the real thing.

I would also lean towards Herbrand.  ??? possible salesman sample that he carried in his pocket
to show the features of their monkey wrench line ???

don't give up on it, Frank 

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Re: 4" adjustable. Need some help
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 11:43:46 PM »
I don't think Herbrand made a wood handled monkey wrench.