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Offline kw573

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WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« on: March 27, 2017, 01:15:38 PM »
I'm building a military tool kit for my  WW2 Heavy Wrecker

DOE - not N4 - not vanadium - CI  - 5/16x3/8   3/8x7/16    7/16x1/2   1/2x19 32   9/16x5/8    9/16x11/16    5/8x25/32  11/16x7/8    3/4x13/16     3/4x7/8    15/16x1

DBE - stubby U/L Craftsman 3/8x7/16  1/2x9/16

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Sockets - 1/4"Dr  U/L Craftsman Circle H 6pt - 3/16  1/4  9/32.  12pt - 5/16   11/32   3/8 7/16

Eg:

 




 
Frustratingly I have bought expensive "just about right" tools from ebay which I will unload sometime.
Freight is the killer as I am in Australia.
   
More to be added later.

Sam.
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 01:49:09 PM »
Sam,  Can you post a photo example of what you're looking for? 
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 02:33:36 PM »
wrong size, but do I have rest correct?

If so , I'll dig further

DSCF3541 by Skip Albright, on Flickr

DSCF3543 by Skip Albright, on Flickr


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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 02:50:02 PM »
Al

Skip has nailed it! Thanks.

The sizes seem a bit unusual to me but I'm no expert.

I'll add more sizes/etc as energy allows! :cheesy:

Thanks.
Sam.

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »
Sam:

I'll dig further for these.

Please do us all a favor and introduce yourself.

and tell us about military tool kits.

many of us save  what seem to be common tools hoping they will the right ones for a toolkit, but  the info is hard to come by.

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 03:28:54 PM »
Glad to Skip.

But I have run out of time right now. So in the next  day or so.

Thanks.
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 09:06:18 PM »
Sam, I find it amusing that you're looking for 1/4" drive sockets for a WW2 Heavy Wrecker. http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/Smileys/popos/grin.gif That's gotta be tuff finding vintage tools way down there. Shipping will be a killer. I had a friend down there that I shipped some plastic model car parts to and the shipping was more than the parts. Good luck!

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2017, 02:49:08 PM »
Yes shipping is the killer. It doubles or triples the cost.
Just bought some heavy items from USA. cost=USD100. shipping=USD150.

Yes the big wrecker has 1/4"drive tools listed.

I have technology issues that make  typing very slow (some keys stopped working) so full reply awaits repairs.

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 02:22:59 AM »
Technology issues fixed.

I'll put an introduction post in that section.
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 01:37:22 PM »
Here is a picture from the Technical Manual (TM) of the hand tools box that mounts on the rear body of the M1A1.




And here is a picture of my Heavy Wrecker M1A1, off to a rally several years ago.




The tool box is a Plomb product, I don't know the model or anything else about it. But I did manage to get a hold of a tatty incomplete one to get me started.



Comments from those more knowledgeable than I?

Sam.

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 12:31:30 PM »
Seems to be odd that you would have a Plvmb tool box with the C-man underline tools or am I off base-meaning that you are just using a used Plvmb box until you find the political C-Man box?   I have never seen a C-man box that was marked as of that vintage with a underline marking on same??   Maybe some of the other tool gods can chime in on this one!
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 12:36:33 PM »
Could that just be the way that the truck manufacturer furnished the tools?  Plomb box, C-man tools inside?

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2017, 02:25:07 PM »
Hi Gentlemen,

There has been a bit of water under the bridge since my last post.
The MV tool specialists have come to the consensus that, as Plumb owned P&C tools, it probably had them originally in the box.
It is, apparently, a Plumb model 9990 box. It appears in the 1948 P&C catalogue, I'm told.

My realistic chance of assembling a P&C kit is a number approaching zero :rolleyes:. As I have, in my ignorance, already started on a period-correct Craftsman set, I'll continue. Note that the TM picture is indicative only, and there is a real chance that the box could have been filled by whatever brand was available at the time, or even a mixture of brands. Times were pressing!

Further, and some comments here are welcome, I'm told that there were no Craftsman-branded 3/4"dr. sockets in WW2, but that the circle K stuff (made by SK) is post war. So a suitable 'bedfellow' in a kit of Craftsman would be SK branded 3/4"dr. sockets.
What do you think?

Then, how do I identify that SK tools are WW2/1940s', and not pre- or post-war?

Yes, it is not perfect, but will have to do in the medium term.

Hope this helps.

Have a nice day.
Sam

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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2017, 07:53:13 AM »
I don't think it would matter if they were pre-war.   With all the shortages during the war I imagine they would have grabbed whatever was still in the bins.  Seen later military sets that were a real mix, but the sizes were all there. 
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Re: WTB / WTSwap - Craftsman underline 'H' DOE/DBE/Sockets
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2017, 02:23:53 PM »
No expert on the subject but my observation from gov paper lists and assembled kits I've seen there is almost always a mix of manufacturers They just used what ever was avaliable to assemble kits to send out.
A person who could really read human minds would be privileged to gaze on some correct imitations of chaos.