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Offline rustyric

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Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« on: April 26, 2018, 01:24:37 PM »
Is this a Millers Fall No4 plane if so how old do you think it is ? It has the name on the blade ONLY and a small letter s behind the rear handle.


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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2018, 01:53:36 PM »
Hello, Ric. Looks like a Stanley to me, the No. 4 on the toe is my first clue, plus the low knob. I believe the Millers Falls in that size had a tall knob.Can't tell from the photo, is there a lateral adjustment lever? Regards, Lou
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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 02:11:27 PM »
No lateral adjustment lever. I also think it maybe and early Stanley with a Millers fall blade fitted, (but I am no expert).

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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 02:44:24 PM »
Hello, Ric. Can you take the plane apart the rest of the way, to see if the lateral lever has broken off from the frog? If the frog never had a lateral adjustment lever, then it would fall into the pre-lateral time period. Regards, Lou
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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2018, 06:42:10 PM »
its broken off

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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »
Post a photo of the trademark on the blade, and we can probably date it for you.

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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2018, 12:43:44 AM »
I'm pretty sure that is not a millers falls, doesn't look like their body at all to me. … does have a low knob which would indicate an early stanely, if parts matched up
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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2018, 07:42:46 AM »
I think a low front knob dates it to pre 1918 and it does look like a Stanley to me.

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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2018, 09:51:11 AM »
This might be helpful: https://oldtoolheaven.com/bench/benchtypes.htm.

And I concur with others: probably an early Stanley.  Some early Stanleys did not have a lateral adjustment lever.  Look here for a type study on the Stanley planes: http://rexmill.com/planes101/typing/typing.htm

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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2018, 11:01:53 AM »
Just amazing how you guys and gals can look at an unmarked rusty tool and be able to tell brand, age, style, etc.

I've got a long way to go! lol
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Re: Is this a Millers Fall plane No 4 plane
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2018, 01:01:02 PM »
Just amazing how you guys and gals can look at an unmarked rusty tool and be able to tell brand, age, style, etc.
There are distinct features on the old planes (and often other tools) that, once learned, make it easy.  It's like anything else; you put in a little time, and you can learn those features.

I used to be able to tell different models of car apart; but my passion for cars faded some time back, so I don't know the features on the new ones.  They all look much the same to me, with limited exceptions.