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Title: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: crankshaftdan II on July 25, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
I know some other members have scored on finding these in the wild!  I stumbled onto these today and had to pay more than the $4.50 original price that is stamped into the handle as the seller was keenly aware of what they were.  I somewhat believe these were possibly mfg. for the Military as the canvas case is O.D.-however no FSN could be found on them.  Rather a quite common pliers dating back to the 1920"s-these will look just fine after a little wd-40 clean up and into the Dark Abiss of my collector tools!
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: EVILDR235 on July 25, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
I have two pairs of those, but no extra jaws or case. I see lots of the pliers for sale, but the extra jaws are long gone.

EvilDr235
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Lostmind on July 25, 2014, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: EVILDR235 on July 25, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
I have two pairs of those, but no extra jaws or case. I see lots of the pliers for sale, but the extra jaws are long gone.

EvilDr235

I have two also , although they each have a different jaw. Seems there are enough out there that nobody want's them without the jaw unless they are under $2-$3
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: mikeswrenches on July 25, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
If you look for extra jaws, be aware that there are two different types of gear racks.  One has straight cut teeth like a spur gear, and the other has angled teeth like a helical cut gear.  Make sure you get the right ones.

I don't know which is the earlier, but a guess would be the straight cut ones.

Mike
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: lbgradwell on July 25, 2014, 10:36:01 PM
I want a set (with jaws) and a nice pouch.

Someday...
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: DM11 on July 25, 2014, 11:35:26 PM
Nice Plierench set crankshaft. They come in 8 1/2" and 7" size. I have a few sets of these. Top pic 8 1/2" made in 1936 bottom pic is a 7" made in 1953.
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: EVILDR235 on July 26, 2014, 12:15:16 AM
My two have never met.I will need to dig them out and compare them. Collecting tools i have found never assume anything.I recently got all three pairs of my Proto / P&C compound leverage pliers in the same place and found things different about them besides the name. Alloy Artifacts is our friend.

EvilDr235
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 27, 2014, 11:59:26 AM
Nice to have it all together. I have a pair of Eiffel pliers but no package or jaws.

Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Charles Garrett on August 05, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
Re:  Eifel pliers.  There are 5 distinct types.  The first is a 1 yr only 1920 and 8" with smooth handles.  @nd is 1921- 8 1/2 inch 1 maybe 2  yrs.  #3 is the one with angle cut gears and was made from ca 1923 to 1932.  these 3 only had 3 sets of jaws. the 4 th type has many type of jaw sets over the years and was made by several mfrs and still made today.  many different markings  with the early ones being marked with yr & month of mfr.  These have all markings roll stamped while previous 3 are forged marked.  The 5th style and is 7" and has 3 sets of smaller jaws.   Chuck Garrett
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: DM11 on August 10, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
Quote from: Charles Garrett on August 05, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
Re:  Eifel pliers.  There are 5 distinct types.  The first is a 1 yr only 1920 and 8" with smooth handles.  @nd is 1921- 8 1/2 inch 1 maybe 2  yrs.  #3 is the one with angle cut gears and was made from ca 1923 to 1932.  these 3 only had 3 sets of jaws. the 4 th type has many type of jaw sets over the years and was made by several mfrs and still made today.  many different markings  with the early ones being marked with yr & month of mfr.  These have all markings roll stamped while previous 3 are forged marked.  The 5th style and is 7" and has 3 sets of smaller jaws.   Chuck Garrett


Thank you for the history and differences between the different variations over the years Mr. Garrett.
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Yadda on September 15, 2014, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: Charles Garrett on August 05, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
Re:  Eifel pliers.  There are 5 distinct types.  The first is a 1 yr only 1920 and 8" with smooth handles.  @nd is 1921- 8 1/2 inch 1 maybe 2  yrs.  #3 is the one with angle cut gears and was made from ca 1923 to 1932.  these 3 only had 3 sets of jaws. the 4 th type has many type of jaw sets over the years and was made by several mfrs and still made today.  many different markings  with the early ones being marked with yr & month of mfr.  These have all markings roll stamped while previous 3 are forged marked.  The 5th style and is 7" and has 3 sets of smaller jaws.   Chuck Garrett

A little clarification on this list.

I believe these versions exist:
1920
1921A
1922B
1923- November 1924 (Look like the World Flight Version with straight gears)
December 1924 to 1932 - World Flight Version with angled gears
1933 to early 60's - 7 and 8-1/2 in versions
1960's to early 70's VACO
Mid 70's Masterform
1980 - Nopak

The differences in the VACO, Masterform and Nopak versions are slight compared to the 1933 version, but the jaws often aren't interchangeble due to width. 

I have some of all of these.  I will post photo's once I get home this evening.
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 03:07:54 PM
Lot 606 on the next Wrenching News Auction to be held after the Missouri valley Wrench Club Fall meeting Oct. 24 and 25 in El Dorado, Kansas is an Eifel Pliers with pouch and four jaws.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/fall-2014/F14-0602-608.jpg~original)


Link to all photos
http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/all-pics-one-page.html (http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/all-pics-one-page.html)

Link to the catalog "in progress"
http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/catalog.html (http://wrenchingnews.com/2014-fall-auction/catalog.html)

Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Charles Garrett on September 15, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
#606 is the angled gear type and looks to be a nice set.
Title: Re: My first set of Eifel pliers wrench
Post by: Yadda on September 15, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: Charles Garrett on September 15, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
#606 is the angled gear type and looks to be a nice set.

Looks like one of the jaws is from a later version?