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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: OilyRascal on August 14, 2014, 03:59:37 PM

Title: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: OilyRascal on August 14, 2014, 03:59:37 PM
Found these today in my hunt.  A little something for Bonneyman, and a little something for myself.  I've carried a shiney 20oz Estwing straight-claw to this day.  I believe that will change.

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Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: bonneyman on August 14, 2014, 05:34:11 PM
Thanks for the thought, but I have one of those brake pliers already. Still trying to figure out how to use it. lol
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Lostmind on August 14, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
The curved end with the point goes in the brake shoe rivet hole, the end with the hook goes under the brake spring hook.  But you were probably " jesting" on not knowing how to use it.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: bonneyman on August 14, 2014, 07:35:41 PM
Nope - I'm being honest. I haven't done brake work since high school. Even now doing brakes would be a big step for me, as I've had service mechanics do those for 25+ years.

I've seen pictures and videos of the procedures, but haven't actually attempted it yet.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Papaw on August 14, 2014, 10:09:32 PM
Try it Bonneyman! It's loads of fun!! :grin:
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: rusty on August 15, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
> It's loads of fun!

The squashing the spring part, or the finding the spring when it comes down out of orbit part? LOL

Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: oldtools on August 17, 2014, 02:06:29 AM
Try doing drum brakes without proper tools... not fun!!
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Chillylulu on August 19, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
Try doing drum brakes without proper tools... not fun!!
Not that much fun with 'em, either. I much prefer disc brakes.
Chilly
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 19, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
> It's loads of fun!

The squashing the spring part, or the finding the spring when it comes down out of orbit part? LOL
No, the vocabulary-building exercise throughout the process.

One fun challenge is brake work on older vehicles that predate the current tools.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: rusty on August 19, 2014, 05:38:48 PM
Did drums on a 62 Mercedes once. Never do that. Not ever. Not for a zillion dollars.
Crazy Germans had a novel idea, steel drums.....aluminum shoes...
Guess what happens when that combination gets wet and rusts for a while.....

Took three days to get the rear wheels apart....
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Twilight Fenrir on August 19, 2014, 05:59:48 PM
Try doing drum brakes without proper tools... not fun!!

I pretty much do all my drum brake work with nothing but a big standard screwdriver XD Seems to work alright...

I did just happen to pick up the very same pliers posted in the topic by chance the other day in a flea market though o.o Bonney and everything. No idea how to use them XD
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: lauver on August 20, 2014, 12:02:04 AM
Twilight,

What does o.o and XD mean?
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Papaw on August 20, 2014, 02:16:15 AM
Text talk-
o.o - I think it means  I'm confused , or I have no idea.

xd - makes a laughing face in texting.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: john k on August 20, 2014, 07:54:01 AM
Being the old mechanic I have a half dozen brake spring tools in my box.   I notice one of the young guys doing drum brakes and just wait.   After the cussing goes on for a few I walk over with the tools in my pocket, watch. then hand them the right one, for the stubborn spring they're trying unsuccessfully to hook up.  Sometimes even show them how its easier and faster with the right tool.  Fewer bloody knuckles, less looking around on the floor.  Amazing number of small cars and trucks still use drum brakes on the rear.  Some, one simply cannot do without the right tools.   Some guys would rather just cuss dumb stupid drum brakes than do it right. 
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Charles Garrett on August 20, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
Bot my son a Proto brake spring set of pliers @ MC swap in Tenino, WA last Sat & explained how they work.  Chuck Garrett.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: OilyRascal on August 20, 2014, 03:25:31 PM
Some guys would rather just cuss dumb stupid drum brakes than do it right.

Wouldn't it be nice if that were only true of drum brakes.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: bonneyman on August 20, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
Being the old mechanic I have a half dozen brake spring tools in my box.   I notice one of the young guys doing drum brakes and just wait.   After the cussing goes on for a few I walk over with the tools in my pocket, watch. then hand them the right one, for the stubborn spring they're trying unsuccessfully to hook up.  Sometimes even show them how its easier and faster with the right tool.  Fewer bloody knuckles, less looking around on the floor.  Amazing number of small cars and trucks still use drum brakes on the rear.  Some, one simply cannot do without the right tools.   Some guys would rather just cuss dumb stupid drum brakes than do it right.

Wish somebody was close enough to come over and show me how to do brakes right. Last time I pulled drums off was in high school. YIKES!
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Bill Houghton on August 20, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
Although I have to say...traditional brake spring pliers sure work a lot better on riveted brake shoes.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Chillylulu on August 20, 2014, 09:24:23 PM
I've been looking for a nice pair of steeldraulic pliers for s few months. Find them, but everyone wants too much so far.

Chilly
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: oldtools on August 21, 2014, 05:40:54 PM
I've been looking for a nice pair of steeldraulic pliers for s few months. Find them, but everyone wants too much so far.

Chilly

Wow! never seen steeldraulic pliers before, looked it up...  Cool Tool...
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: john k on August 21, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
Ford V8 cars of the late 30s before finally joining the rest of the manufacturers with hydraulic brakes in 1939, used a steel cable in a sheath for their brakes and called them steeldraulics, fine if the car was driven often, but if they sat a bit, or got ice down the cable you had free free-wheeling!  So they had a special pliers for these?   I suppose right up there with the rarity of the rocky mountain oyster shucker?
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Papaw on August 21, 2014, 08:32:37 PM
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These are interesting pliers not withstanding the odd shape.  They were made for adjusting the Steedraulic brakes on cars built in the 20's and'30's.  If you Google Steeldraulic brakes you'll learn more than you ever wanted to know about them. 

Mikeswrenches posted about them in 2012- http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=6270.0 (http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=6270.0)
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: bear_man on August 22, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
  I suppose right up there with the rarity of the rocky mountain oyster shucker?

John K., Only "rocky mountain oyster shucker" I'm aware of is a truly sharp pocket knife — or are you referring to the current fad of carrying a pocket knife that Ain't sharp?
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Nolatoolguy on August 22, 2014, 07:21:06 PM
I must admit I have no idea how to use brake drum pliers, however I have a few pairs.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: OilyRascal on August 22, 2014, 09:55:08 PM
  I suppose right up there with the rarity of the rocky mountain oyster shucker?

.................Only "rocky mountain oyster shucker" I'm aware of is a truly sharp pocket knife .................

Surgical scalpel works real nice!  Just not on a full moon.
Title: Re: Bonney Brake Pliers
Post by: Chillylulu on August 23, 2014, 12:26:12 AM
  I suppose right up there with the rarity of the rocky mountain oyster shucker?

John K., Only "rocky mountain oyster shucker" I'm aware of is a truly sharp pocket knife — or are you referring to the current fad of carrying a pocket knife that Ain't sharp?
A real Bear-Man could use his teeth. At least one or  two times he would have teeth. (Sorry, got my bovines mixed up with sheep once again.

I stay away from those oysters, but it used to be when I took people out from the Northeast they always wanted rocky mountain oysters. I think it has finally changed. The last time I took a viditor out from new york he wanted rattlesnake for an appetizer.

I try to stick to your basic barnyard animals myself, and not even all of them!!!