Tool Talk
What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: Chillylulu on August 15, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
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I was told this was used in steel mills. Spring loaded tool to check the gauge of sheet goods?
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WOW!! that's neat
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I like it whatever it does. Another mechanical marvel.
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I'd imagine it was used while the sheet was being rolled, hence the need to get the reading quickly as the sheet was passing the worker... It would be wound open: then held on the trigger, released, and the trigger re-engaged to keep the reading - all within a split second...
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I don't think you could get those while moving full speed, but maybe at the end, just before the plate goes back through? Maybe before some take-up area?
This action is pretty stiff, and I think it will be when cleaned up. Strong spring.
I've only been to modern mills, but I think they are similar to the old ones.
I'm still not 100% on its use. The long reach makes sense. I haven't been able to find anything like it so far.
Chilly
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Chilly,
What is stamped on the tool? Is there a patent reference, number, or date on it?
Wire brush it a little and tell us what you find.
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Chilly,
What is stamped on the tool? Is there a patent reference, number, or date on it?
Wire brush it a little and tell us what you find.
All the text on the body is what is shown in the detail, the rest is smooth.
HAINES GAUGE CO
A
1694
Patented
Phila PA
Chilly
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Kovel's website says:
Jul 18, 2012
Q: I have an antique sheet-metal-thickness gauge. It's stamped "Haines Gauge Co., Philadelphia, Pa." and "A 12614." Can you tell me the approximate age and correct name of this tool?
A: Robert B. Haines Jr. (1857-1932) of Coatesville, Pennsylvania, was granted a patent for this "micrometer gage" on Feb. 9, 1892. It was used in steel mills to measure the thickness of steel plate coming out of rolling mills. The gauge allowed the person measuring the thickness to stand back far enough so he wouldn't get burned by the hot steel. Haines worked at Lukens Rolling Mills at the time he invented his gauge but opened his own company, Haines Gauge Co., in the early 1900s. His sons took over the business in 1932 after their father died. The company was still in business in 1942. You have an interesting tool, but it's not very useful today--so it's priced at $10-$15.
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> Robert B. Haines Jr. ; Feb. 9, 1892.
That would make it 468,519
http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=468519&typeCode=0
datamp does not have a photo of an actual one....
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> Robert B. Haines Jr. ; Feb. 9, 1892.
That would make it 468,519
http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=468519&typeCode=0
datamp does not have a photo of an actual one....
I gave the DATAMP steward of the patent a heads up to this discussion thread. Hopefully he'll register as a member & pick up all the details to flesh out the DATAMP entry.
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> Robert B. Haines Jr. ; Feb. 9, 1892.
That would make it 468,519
http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=468519&typeCode=0
datamp does not have a photo of an actual one....
I gave the DATAMP steward of the patent a heads up to this discussion thread. Hopefully he'll register as a member & pick up all the details to flesh out the DATAMP entry.
Begs the question, is there a steward of DATAMP that regularly reviews such interesting post to see if DATAMP might be updated? A place for us to send an update request when we see they're appropriate? Might be questions better served outside this thread, or already answered. I don't use DATAMP. I figure a lot of folks here do. I understand I should, and have no good reason not to other than I'm old and change hurts.
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Stan, aka MVWCNEWS is the DATAMP Steward for keeping wrench patents updated. I send him info all the time about missing patents and new found wrenches that DATAMP has listed as not known to have been made. I use it fairly often to research patent info. A lot of time they list related patents that were issued earlier or later by the patentee.
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I use DATAMP occasionally when researching a tool - if its states that no known tool exists (or hasn't been made) and I have an image it's easy enough to send them an e-mail with an image attached, plus the link to it's source...