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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: NavyRet98 on December 26, 2014, 07:50:28 AM

Title: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on December 26, 2014, 07:50:28 AM
I'm in possession of a number of donated tools, which I'll be building a bench and display cabinet for an historical house. There are approx. 65 to 70 vintage woodworking tools, some of which I am not familiar with. I will solicit the combined expertise of the master craftsmen of this forum.

Point in case:

I am unsure what this is. Can anyone help? I assume it's some sort of a holding device...

(http://claycountysounder.com/CLARKHOUSE/tool.jpg)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: leg17 on December 26, 2014, 07:57:25 AM
google SHAVING HORSE
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on December 26, 2014, 08:26:05 AM
Thank you kindly!
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Papaw on December 26, 2014, 08:28:59 AM
Here are some pictures of them in use at an historic display-
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Barrington%20Farms%20at%20Washington%20on%20the%20Brazos/IMG_4883_zpse4f3d7b2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Barrington%20Farms%20at%20Washington%20on%20the%20Brazos/IMG_4883_zpse4f3d7b2.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Barrington%20Farms%20at%20Washington%20on%20the%20Brazos/IMG_4888_zps21e4a99b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Barrington%20Farms%20at%20Washington%20on%20the%20Brazos/IMG_4888_zps21e4a99b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Chillylulu on December 26, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
I know things were a lot different back in the day.... but, why would you shave a horse?

To take it into church with you?
So it could swim faster?
To make it look younger?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Sincerely,

Chilly

 :grin:
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Lewill2 on December 26, 2014, 08:44:57 PM
Also called a Schnitzelbank or Schnitzel bunk Scottg offered a picture of his in this old thread.

http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=10239.0

Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Yadda on December 27, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
I know things were a lot different back in the day.... but, why would you shave a horse?

To take it into church with you?
So it could swim faster?
To make it look younger?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Sincerely,

Chilly

 :grin:

I assume someone didn't like kissing horses with whiskers.  :grin:
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 02, 2015, 07:20:07 AM
Item #19 and 20?

(http://claycountysounder.com/CLARKHOUSE/4b.jpg)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: mikeswrenches on January 02, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
19 is a reamer used by a cooper for enlarging or smoothing the bung hole in a cask/barrel.

20 is a bung auger that allows you to drill the bung hole and shape it with just the one tool.

Mike
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 02, 2015, 08:40:23 AM
Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Branson on January 02, 2015, 12:22:55 PM
Not quite so fast.  20 is an American style bung hole auger, developed in the late 19th Century.  19 is everybody else's bung hole auger judging from the size (same as the American style).  Well, not quite everybody else -- there are a number of styles, but no other has the twist bit to start the hole.   A lot of tapered augers and auger bits are built just the same.  Tap augers, certainly look like this (I have three of these). Some have a twist at the point to screw into the wood and begin the hole, just like a gimlet.   And some were made to chuck into a brace.  Some of these latter have the same tips as spoon and quill bits.

There are bung hole reamers, but a reamer is a shorter tool entirely.  It has a tapered body with a blade set in rather like a spoke shave.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 02, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Thank you Branson.  And now for the next query. I'm unsure of #49, #50, #53 and #54.  The reason I'm researching these items is because they were donated to an historical house for display. I'm trying to assess the price of these vintage items so that the Orange Park Historical Society (a nonprofit 501(c) can provide the donor with a receipt for tax purposes. It's a generous donation and worthy of the effort to provide him with a receipt.

Thanks for all your help!!!

(http://claycountysounder.com/CLARKHOUSE/10c.jpg)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 02, 2015, 05:24:55 PM
I'm guessing #48 is a meat hook, but want to be sure. #50 looks like a hot coal grabber and #53 I believe is a poke, but unsure.   :tongue:
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: mikeswrenches on January 02, 2015, 06:00:02 PM
I'm pretty sure 54 is a gimlet.

Mike
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: gibsontool on January 02, 2015, 07:41:50 PM
Number 53 is the business end of a pike pole, this is attached to an aluminum or wooden pole of various lengths. Used in the sawmill and forest industry for positioning logs and lumber in many different applications.Very common in sawmills for straightening lumber on transfer decks and sorting bins and were very use full in the old days when the logs were in a pond and steered into a conveyor or jack ladder leading into the mill. If you have ever seen a picture of the log drives in the rivers in the old days these were what the men used to push the logs around with.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 02, 2015, 07:55:08 PM
Thank you both!  You were both correct after Google searching the term you provided.

#49 is gonna be tough. I think it may be for roasting marshmellows.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 03, 2015, 02:42:04 AM
Well, I'll be darned. It IS a marshmallow roasting fork!   :smiley: :smiley:


https://www.etsy.com/listing/189614339/campfire-weenie-marshmallow-roasting
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Branson on January 03, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
49 is a meat fork or a toasting fork for holding things over a fire to cook, toast, or heat up.  Yeah, could be marshmallows or hot dogs, but the idea is older than marshmallows.   53 is exactly what gibbonstool says.  54, definitely a gimlet.  50 appears to be some sort of special use tongs, but I can't say what.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 04, 2015, 05:58:56 PM
Almost done!!  Can anyone help me with #71 and #71?  THANKS!!


(http://claycountysounder.com/CLARKHOUSE/7C.jpg)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: keykeeper on January 04, 2015, 06:28:05 PM
49 is a hand-wrought fork for cooking, probably over an open fire.

71 looks to be a cape chisel, and 72 looks like a countersink or reamer for screw holes.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 04, 2015, 06:52:44 PM
Thank you, sir.  Last one!!!

#75. It has a tapered inside as if to put a point or taper on a dowel.

(http://claycountysounder.com/CLARKHOUSE/11c.jpg)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Branson on January 04, 2015, 08:47:02 PM
>  It has a tapered inside as if to put a point or taper on a dowel.

I think you have a genuine widget.  No, there really is such a thing as a widget -- not for pointing a dowel but for making one.  Works like an old pencil sharpener more or less.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: thiggy on January 04, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
#50 looks to me like an automotive tool which is used to remove the bearing cup from the front wheel of a rear wheel drive vehicle.
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Chillylulu on January 07, 2015, 01:43:09 AM
#50 looks to me like an automotive tool which is used to remove the bearing cup from the front wheel of a rear wheel drive vehicle.
I have a snap-on cover remover, both sides are equal, not offset, and they don't come together tightly.  But I can see this as one also, and not just for rear wheel drives.  A lot of other vehicles and trailers have pressed in bearing covers.

Chilly
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: Billman49 on January 07, 2015, 08:48:53 AM
71 looks like a well worn plugging chisel - used to cut out a joint in brickwork for insertion of a wooden plug (pre dates masonry drills and rawlplugs)...

50 (tongs) looks like a tool used to fit U bolts to buggy and waggon axles - but several tools have a similar form... but I also have a similar pair that are a sort of cutler's or smith's pick up tongs...
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: NavyRet98 on January 14, 2015, 06:56:10 AM
I'd like to thank everyone for helping me identify some of the tools for the Clark House project. I'm now in the process of building a work bench and cabinet for displaying these items during special events at the Clark House in Orange Park, Florida. Once the project is finished, I'll post pictures.

Now visitors will be able to view vintage woodworking tools from the 1800's and early 1900's.

THANKS AGAIN!

http://claycountysounder.com/images/clarkhouseRevisit/saycheese.htm (http://claycountysounder.com/images/clarkhouseRevisit/saycheese.htm)
Title: Re: Clark House Project
Post by: anglesmith on January 15, 2015, 12:28:15 AM
I think that the tongs (50) are automotive brake spring pliers ? Has the straight side got a little hook on the end ?
Graeme