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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: Plyerman on February 25, 2015, 07:37:04 PM

Title: Two strange combinations
Post by: Plyerman on February 25, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Any information on either of these two would be appreciated. The top one has a slew of different functions; pliers, screwdrivers, spanner pins, square drives, etc. But no name or markings of any kind.

The bottom one is an adjustable wrench, a pliers, and has a hammer pol on one edge. It is only stamped STEEL. Does that simply signify that it is made from Steel, or was there a wrench company that went by that name?

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Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: mikeswrenches on February 25, 2015, 07:46:48 PM
For some reason I think the one marked steel is English or possibly German.

Mike
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Papaw on February 25, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
No clue here, but they are both cool!
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: turnnut on February 25, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
on the bottom wrench, did you take the sliding head all the way out to see
if there is any markings on it ?
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Yadda on February 26, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
Any information on either of these two would be appreciated. The top one has a slew of different functions; pliers, screwdrivers, spanner pins, square drives, etc. But no name or markings of any kind.

The bottom one is an adjustable wrench, a pliers, and has a hammer pol on one edge. It is only stamped STEEL. Does that simply signify that it is made from Steel, or was there a wrench company that went by that name?

front
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/Two%20Unknown%20a_zpsgvsn9lcg.jpg)


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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/Two%20Unknown%20b_zpstnjvlqzl.jpg)


Wow!  Just wow! 
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: HeelSpur on February 26, 2015, 05:10:16 AM
They are just flat out Awesome.
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Branson on February 26, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a combo tool with a driver for split nuts before this.  Neat tools, both!
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Plyerman on February 26, 2015, 08:46:50 PM
on the bottom wrench, did you take the sliding head all the way out to see
if there is any markings on it ?

I did indeed. Unfortunately there were no markings on the jaw shank either. Who would make such a neat tool and not put their name on it?


I don't think I've ever seen a combo tool with a driver for split nuts before this.  Neat tools, both!


Ahh, forgive me. I did not know what a "split nut" was, so I looked it up. Turns out I knew what they were, I just never knew that's what they were called.

(http://takeadiptools.com/attachments/Image/SAW_SHARPENING/split_screw_removal2.jpg)



For some reason I think the one marked steel is English or possibly German.

Mike


Any particular reason behind your thinking Mike? The "STEEL" stamping perhaps? I do have a few old English tools marked STEEL, but also an old American-made tool with STEEL on it. And a German tool marked STAHL. 
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Chillylulu on February 26, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Stahwille - a German tool manufacturer is the European equivalent to Snap-On, some argue their quality is even better.

I really like them both, but for me the top tool; takes the prize. what are the two bump outs on the top of the top tool in the first picture?  Did it have a handle?

Chilly normally, but freezing this week.
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Plyerman on February 27, 2015, 08:17:06 AM
Bump outs:

They appear to be additional functions, but I don't know to what purpose..? One has a concave face, as if it is meant to cup something. It is hard to see in the picture, but it is actually dished inwards about 1/8 of an inch:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/unknown%20multifunction%20toolb_zpssxqgnglr.jpg)



Opposite of that, the other bump has a narrow slit through it, and a cross pin:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/unknown%20multifunction%20toola_zpsorrt4orc.jpg)



When the tool is opened and closed, the two bumps get closer together and farther apart (obviously). But I'm still baffled as to what their purpose is.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/unknown%20multifunction%20toolc_zpshzbensm7.jpg)

Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: humber2 on February 27, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
on the bottom wrench, did you take the sliding head all the way out to see
if there is any markings on it ?

OP might like to measure the thread pitch, if metric not likely British.

The steel stamp should denote the material is that and not cast iron.

Maybe this tool could be on-stamped by several marketers?
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Yadda on February 27, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
The pin within the thin split reminds me of the pipe cutting jaw on plierenches and the glass cuttor on Universal scissors. I'm going with a missing cutting piece for pipecutting.  The other side would help keep the pipe (smaller diameters better than larger ones) held more firmly in place.
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Plyerman on February 27, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
The pin within the thin split reminds me of the pipe cutting jaw on plierenches and the glass cuttor on Universal scissors. I'm going with a missing cutting piece for pipecutting.  The other side would help keep the pipe (smaller diameters better than larger ones) held more firmly in place.

That's the best theory I've heard Lyndon. I'm still not sure though why the other side would be dished, or why the cutter wheel would be missing (there is no signs of any damage in that area, and no rub marks on the side of the tiny slit where the wheel would have turned). Still, I've got no better ideas.   



on the bottom wrench, did you take the sliding head all the way out to see
if there is any markings on it ?

OP might like to measure the thread pitch, if metric not likely British.

The steel stamp should denote the material is that and not cast iron.

Maybe this tool could be on-stamped by several marketers?

Good idea. Near as I can measure, we've got 12 threads to the inch. The closest metric thread would be a 2mm pitch, but 12 threads would measure .945", so its clearly not metric. So either British or U.S. made it is then.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/Steel%20TPI_zpsxn5rlkdj.jpg)
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: crankshaftdan II on February 27, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
I would clean them both up with WD-40--evapo rust or vinegar & remove the balance of the surface rust just to see if there are any other markings that might be under the crud!!!   Just my 2 cents worth-neverless they are both very cool multi-tools........Cranky :cool:
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: gibsontool on February 27, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
Can't help with ID but I just have to say those are two the nicest little tools that I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Two strange combinations
Post by: Lewill2 on February 27, 2015, 03:02:34 PM
Could the pliers style tool be for a gun or some other weapon cleaning/break down tool?