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Picture Forum => 6 Inch & Under Club => Topic started by: Papaw on March 06, 2015, 08:59:15 PM

Title: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Papaw on March 06, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
This one is in very rough condition.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Assorted%20wrenches/6inchBergman2_zps92f36638-1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Assorted%20wrenches/6inchBergman2_zps92f36638-1.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/papao55/Assorted%20wrenches/6inchBergman_zps82a4a128-1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/papao55/media/Assorted%20wrenches/6inchBergman_zps82a4a128-1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Plyerman on March 07, 2015, 08:53:28 AM
You say very rough, but it still looks pretty nice to me.

So question; I've heard that square hole on the end referred to as a prest-o-lite wrench, but what exactly does that mean?
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Papaw on March 07, 2015, 08:54:54 AM
Used to open and close valves on things like air and gas bottles, think welding gas.
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Plyerman on March 07, 2015, 10:23:02 PM
Hah, what a coincidence. I was just looking through last March's issue of the MVWC newsletter tonight and saw this:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/queen%20city_zps4vihrtmj.jpg)
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Papaw on March 08, 2015, 09:28:23 AM
If anyone ever sees one of those displays for sale, I'd like to know!
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: john on March 09, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
The gas tank on the running board of pre-1915 brass era cars was often Prestolite gas for the headlamps. 
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: mvwcnews on March 09, 2015, 02:02:03 PM
Quote

So question; I've heard that square hole on the end referred to as a prest-o-lite wrench, but what exactly does that mean?
Specifically, PrestOLite was bottled acetylene for "gas" headlights on automobiles, etc. before they had electrical systems robust enough for electric lights. ( Pre WWI ).  The valve had a square stud, and you needed a small wrench to open & close the valve.  You can find pocket knife blades, bottle openers, etc. with a square wrench opening that fit the PrestOLite valve.   The link is for  a 1904 MOTOR AGE article about the "startup" for the product.
( https://books.google.com/books?id=w6oAAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA7-PA14&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2h1CVYWnpeehH1N5_VZnrm7v9JIw&ci=23%2C396%2C340%2C840&edge=0 )
It does not show the tank or wrench.

(addendum)  { https://books.google.com/books?id=IKcyAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA161&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2li2oYWtq6uu7ZpeVmkE4bs_f-lQ&ci=378%2C914%2C537%2C533&edge=0 } shows a 1911 Mossberg "new product" piece for a combination screwdriver, bottle opener & Prest-O-Lite key -- there's one for you Mossberg fanciers to look out for! ( / addendum )

The 1/4" square or 3/8" square openings in adjustable wrench handles probably were for set screws, etc. although there are valves in refrigeration (even modern air conditioners & heat pumps ) that have  1/4" square ends.
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Chillylulu on March 28, 2015, 05:13:41 PM
Hah, what a coincidence. I was just looking through last March's issue of the MVWC newsletter tonight and saw this:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/queen%20city_zps4vihrtmj.jpg)
Plyerman,

I match your coincidence and raise you one....

Coincidence - for me it is while reading this and seeing your picture and then looking over at my desk and seeing the same wrench as is in the ad above:
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/chillylulu/Tools%20Sized/February%202015/20150328_141437_zpsmwq2vynp.jpg) (http://s880.photobucket.com/user/chillylulu/media/Tools%20Sized/February%202015/20150328_141437_zpsmwq2vynp.jpg.html)

It is really rusted, but I think that if it isn't the same, it is at least a family member.

Chilly


Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: HeelSpur on March 28, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
Hah, what a coincidence. I was just looking through last March's issue of the MVWC newsletter tonight and saw this:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20II/queen%20city_zps4vihrtmj.jpg)
Plyerman,

I match your coincidence and raise you one....

Coincidence - for me it is while reading this and seeing your picture and then looking over at my desk and seeing the same wrench as is in the ad above:
(http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/chillylulu/Tools%20Sized/February%202015/20150328_141437_zpsmwq2vynp.jpg) (http://s880.photobucket.com/user/chillylulu/media/Tools%20Sized/February%202015/20150328_141437_zpsmwq2vynp.jpg.html)

It is really rusted, but I think that if it isn't the same, it is at least a family member.

Chilly
Looks pretty close except for the curved handle at the end, now I got to find one.
Title: Re: Rough 6" Queen City Bergman adjustable
Post by: Yadda on March 28, 2015, 08:15:10 PM
Eagle Claw pliers are monsters.