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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: HeelSpur on April 20, 2015, 08:40:53 AM

Title: WW X2270
Post by: HeelSpur on April 20, 2015, 08:40:53 AM
This one tickled me to find, its the first one I've seen in the wild.
Probably a million of them  out there but this one called my name.

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Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: gibsontool on April 20, 2015, 11:30:02 AM
Interesting coincidence, I've been after Walden tools for several years and this is one I've been missing. I found one on Ebay recently and just opened the box 2 days ago. I paid $6.99 which, when you add on shipping was a little high , but, now I have one.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: HeelSpur on April 20, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
Interesting coincidence, I've been after Walden tools for several years and this is one I've been missing. I found one on Ebay recently and just opened the box 2 days ago. I paid $6.99 which, when you add on shipping was a little high , but, now I have one.
Mine was 5 bux and he wouldn't come down to 3 even after I told him I was tighter than hell.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: gibsontool on April 20, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Damn. I'm jealous.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: Yadda on April 21, 2015, 02:56:56 PM
Interesting coincidence, I've been after Walden tools for several years and this is one I've been missing. I found one on Ebay recently and just opened the box 2 days ago. I paid $6.99 which, when you add on shipping was a little high , but, now I have one.
Mine was 5 bux and he wouldn't come down to 3 even after I told him I was tighter than hell.

I need to try that statement!
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: bonneyman on April 22, 2015, 09:59:44 AM
Maybe I'm a bit groggy this morning, but I just can't figure out how this tool works. What's it used for, and how do you use it?
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: HeelSpur on April 22, 2015, 12:21:17 PM
Maybe I'm a bit groggy this morning, but I just can't figure out how this tool works. What's it used for, and how do you use it?
I do believe it is a lug wrench, at least that's what I've seen in past search's.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: turnnut on April 22, 2015, 12:24:03 PM
it's a wheel nut wrench, like a 4 socket cross wrench, only that it has 2 sockets.

sockets could be any combination of 2 of the follwing sizes used in the early 1920's;
you had lug nuts & demountable rim holding nuts. such as used on the old wood rims.

5/8"    11/16"    3/4"    13/16"     7/8"

I have seen old ads for this particular wrench, and have been trying to find those ads
to pinpoint the year of manufacture.

 
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: FAISAL on April 22, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
beautiful ,nice find     
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: turnnut on April 22, 2015, 10:00:34 PM
Heelspur,  is that 11/16"  &  7/8"  ?
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: HeelSpur on April 23, 2015, 05:17:36 AM
Heelspur,  is that 11/16"  &  7/8"  ?
yes it is.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: gibsontool on April 23, 2015, 08:06:47 PM
I was just looking on Ebay and found I paid $12.99 not $6.99 as I had said earlier. So now I'm really jealous.
 Mine is also 11/16" x 7/8"
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: eddie hudson on April 24, 2015, 06:24:40 AM
All X 2270 are 11/16 x 7/8. Someone here won a WW catalog a few years ago, I think it was Fins. He would be able to tell you what it was used for and what other sizes were available. Unfortunately I don't think he posts here anymore.

If you really want to get jealous, I got mine last year for $1. :grin:
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: gibsontool on April 24, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
Eddie. I really wish you hadn't told me that, but whatever, unfortunately for me it probably will not be the last time I'll pay too much for a interesting tool. I tend to let common sense and good judgement fall by the wayside when I find something I like. I hate it when that happens.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: Yadda on April 24, 2015, 01:27:36 PM
Eddie. I really wish you hadn't told me that, but whatever, unfortunately for me it probably will not be the last time I'll pay too much for a interesting tool. I tend to let common sense and good judgement fall by the wayside when I find something I like. I hate it when that happens.

+1
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: turnnut on April 24, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
gibsontool,  you have to think positive when buying an old tool.

think about why you want that tool, then tell yourself that it is better to buy it, than to buy
a hamburger with a drink that you will lose the next day, but you would still have the wrench.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: gibsontool on April 24, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
I allways think positive when I'm buying, it's after the fact that I question my decisions.
  I like your way of thinking, it makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: eddie hudson on April 25, 2015, 07:38:31 AM
It's not how much you pay for something, it's how much you want it. I have a bunch of WW stuff but if the price was $3 I wouldn't have bought it unless it was the last piece for a set. (I'm a cheapskate)



Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: Chillylulu on May 29, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
It's not how much you pay for something, it's how much you want it. I have a bunch of WW stuff but if the price was $3 I wouldn't have bought it unless it was the last piece for a set. (I'm a cheapskate)

Me too. It took me 2 years (and purchasing numerous 3's and 4's from pictures) to find a #2 Stanley plane for what I considered the right price. Then there are the lots I buy on a hunch. I believe I do pretty well, but I haven't ever evaluated it.

It's the rare find at a great price that keeps me going.

I like the WW stuff. I've found that in retail stores like antique malls or junk stores WW tools can be found inexpensively piece by piece.  But if there us a group of them the price gets steep pretty quickly.

Chilly
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: lauver on May 30, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
HeelSpur,

That is an interesting lug wrench.  What is the length across both handles?

Just looking at it, I can't imagine being able to apply more than 30 to 40 ft/lbs of torque with those short-ish looking handles.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: HeelSpur on May 30, 2015, 05:06:27 PM
HeelSpur,

That is an interesting lug wrench.  What is the length across both handles?

Just looking at it, I can't imagine being able to apply more than 30 to 40 ft/lbs of torque with those short-ish looking handles.
Its 10 1/4", I suspect a person had to be pretty darn stout to loosen up the nuts.
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: lauver on May 30, 2015, 06:54:16 PM
HeelSpur,

Maybe a tire iron was used with the lug wrench (i.e. slipped thru one handle) to break the lug nuts loose.  The tire iron could easily double the torque of the lug wrench.  Or, maybe the tire iron was used to break the lug nuts loose & tighten them up while the lug wrench was used to spin them off & on.

Of course, I could be wrong....
Title: Re: WW X2270
Post by: mvwcnews on May 30, 2015, 11:40:40 PM
<snip>
I have seen old ads for this particular wrench, and have been trying to find those ads
to pinpoint the year of manufacture.
It has Pat. Oct. 22, 1918 on the shank so is sometime after that.  That leaves the tail end of the teens & most of the 20s for your search range.
My tries so far turned up a circa 1916 Walden Worcester "new product announcement" for an "L" handled socket series 40xx where the last two digits are the size in 32nds & the sizes range from 7/16ths to 7/8ths with a couple  sized in 32nds. It is pretty indistinct in the view one gets from a google books digitization, but here's the link if anyone is curious -- I'll stick it in the Sept. MVWC Newsletter as well.  ( https://books.google.com/books?id=DJc7AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA100&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U14C3trxmV4Up9GkFG5w-q7n1Efmw&ci=367%2C458%2C305%2C818&edge=0 )