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Title: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: elkpointtoolco on December 26, 2015, 10:09:42 PM
Have no idea what these 2 are. The first one looks like a toy hammer, but I don't recognize it from anything. The second one has me beat....I can't figure it out - not even the W.C. Co.

(http://elkpointtoolco.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_20151221_221720473.jpg)

(http://elkpointtoolco.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_20151221_222235505_HDR.jpg)

More pics on this blog post (mine) -
http://elkpointtoolco.com/?p=131
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: Lewill2 on December 27, 2015, 05:39:43 AM
I have one of those hammers too, I think they are candy hammers. You see them on eBay from time to time. I don't recall ever seeing any other info on them. I don't have anything else listed about mine on my inventory list. The second tool no clue.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: gibsontool on December 27, 2015, 08:08:44 AM
I have a similar hammer,but don't know it's original use, and like Lewell2 no clue on the other.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: turnnut on December 27, 2015, 10:43:51 AM
ditto on Lewill2 & gibsontool's post,  I have the hammer and always thought that it was for breaking up candy.

as for the 2nd tool ???  I do not recall ever seeing one like that, sorry.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: jefftrin on December 27, 2015, 01:26:49 PM
Tool 2  looks to me like something my old nan had for extracting weeds from out of manicured lawns
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: Bill Houghton on December 27, 2015, 02:48:13 PM
That second tool looks like it's hinged on the end opposite the handle - yes?  If so, maybe some pics of it opened up will inspire someone to figure it out.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: Plyerman on December 27, 2015, 03:59:57 PM
The additional photos on your blog are helpful......but I still don't know what the heck it is. :-/
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: turnnut on December 27, 2015, 09:54:19 PM
 on the 2nd tool,  is the cradle the right size to hold a bunch of celery or a bunch of carrots ?

 ?? vegetable holder to tie them in bunches ""

 the one that I was trying to think of was, "asparagus buncher"
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: oldgoaly on December 28, 2015, 02:06:58 PM
I think Turnnut is on the right track.
Ties something but what?
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: mikeswrenches on December 28, 2015, 05:13:57 PM
I have no clue on the second item.  The hammer is another matter.

Design patent D50,407 was awarded to Joseph J. Sprenger and Ludvig Sorensen both of Indianapolis, Indiana  on February 27, 1917.

On page 120, fig. 11, of The Hammer book, is a picture of our hammer.  Comerford and Baird show it with the "Sugar, Nut and Candy hammers.

Below is the DATAMP link.

http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=D50407&id=11675&set=1


Mike
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: Chillylulu on December 29, 2015, 04:36:46 AM
As for the 2nd tool:

"W. C. Co. stands for "Washington Cutlery Co.," which became Village Blacksmith, a firm that made cutlery, farm knives and tools from the early 1900s through the 1960s in Watertown. The firm went out of business and most of the manufacturing departments became what is today Fischer-Barton."

"In its early years the company made a product known as Household Knives.  The output in the early years was only ten to 15 dozen per day.  The knives were sold to retail stores in Wisconsin.
 
The company, as it expanded, added knives of all kinds to its products.  Clevers, grass hooks, corn and hedge knives, screw drivers, chisels, punches, shaves and other tools were among products that were manufactured at various times.
 
In recent years the company has turned out a widely known line of fine cutlery and garden tools.
 
By 1921 the company was turning out between 700,000 and 1,000,000 individual pieces annually.  Its products were sold by more than 3,000 hardware stores as well as in restaurant and butcher supply stores throughout the United States"

From "History of Watertown, Wisconsin" e-book

Chilly
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: mvwcnews on December 29, 2015, 08:36:13 AM
Looked at the photos on your blog post & have a question.  Are the round things at "A" in this edited version of one of your photos rollers?
Don't know what the tool is, just trying to figure out how it might work.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: turnnut on December 29, 2015, 10:18:29 AM
Stan, they look like hinges, that may be washers inside for alignment ???
to take up slack in the casting of the parts ???

it reminds me of the old Philadelphia asparagus bunchers, except it is hand held.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: elkpointtoolco on December 29, 2015, 01:23:10 PM
Looked at the photos on your blog post & have a question.  Are the round things at "A" in this edited version of one of your photos rollers?
Don't know what the tool is, just trying to figure out how it might work.

I believe that those are rollers...appear to be made of brass.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: turnnut on December 29, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
is that 2nd tool solid ?  or can you swing it open ?

are the ??? rollers the only brass on this item ???
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: elkpointtoolco on December 30, 2015, 02:42:16 AM
is that 2nd tool solid ?  or can you swing it open ?

are the ??? rollers the only brass on this item ???

It's solid and does not swing open.

The rollers and the ferrule on the handle are the only brass.

My thoughts are that it may be:
1. some sort of cradle for holding a thread spool for some sort of loom or spinning wheel (neither of which I know a darn thing about).
2. some sort of knife sharpener that's missing the filing/abrasive part.
3. some kind of saw blade sharpener or part of a larger one.

And also - Hat tips to all for identifying the candy hammer! I would have never guessed that!
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: elkpointtoolco on June 12, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
I Took the 2nd tool with the wood handle to the MWTCA National Meet in Des Moines yesterday. They were identified as a carpet tack/staple puller.  I still haven't found the patent to match up with it.
Title: Re: 2 tools that have me stumped /00\
Post by: Plyerman on June 15, 2016, 10:07:45 AM
Thanks for letting us know. That one really had me scratching my head.