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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: coz on January 10, 2016, 09:55:21 AM

Title: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 09:55:21 AM

Hello all. This is my first post on the forum. Great place. Wondering if anyone knows what this is called. I seem to remember seeing one listed somewhere and it seemed that the name was of British origin. I can't remember the name and what it is used for. It is nicely done and looks as if it was born this way and not a modified screwdriver or bearing scraper. It measures in at about a foot long. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Ed

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa388/cozfly/rosewoodA.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/cozfly/media/rosewoodA.jpg.html)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa388/cozfly/rosewoodB.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/cozfly/media/rosewoodB.jpg.html)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa388/cozfly/rosewoodC.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/cozfly/media/rosewoodC.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: Papaw on January 10, 2016, 10:51:50 AM

Welcome to Tool Talk!

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 11:02:16 AM

Thanks Papaw

I just noticed the introduction page. I guess I owe a post over there. I see your perfect handle avatar and want to let you know that I live a mile or two from where that was made. I used to have an antique store right around the corner.
I have been in the old H.D. S. buildings and see quite a bit of Plantsville tools around these parts. I just bought a local collection out of a house in Plantsville. That is where the whatsit above came from.

Cheers,
Ed

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: Papaw on January 10, 2016, 11:51:06 AM

Very interesting! I have an affinity for H D Smith tools.

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 12:24:07 PM

Unfortunately I just found this site. I sold these about a month ago, I found them a few years ago in a building right next door to the original H.D.S. factory.

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Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: Lewill2 on January 10, 2016, 01:21:59 PM

Draw pin or a Marlin spike?

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: Bill Houghton on January 10, 2016, 02:29:16 PM

Could it be a knife steel, as used on kitchen knives?  Some of them are smooth.

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 02:57:14 PM

Comes to an extremely sharp point for a sharpening steel

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: Lostmind on January 10, 2016, 03:29:05 PM

When you can't ID it , it's always for leather work . lol
I'll guess harness maker awl

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 06:19:13 PM

Posted it over on OWWM forum and was told it is a drawbore pin..................and I believe it!

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: bill300d on January 10, 2016, 06:48:54 PM

Quote from: coz on January 10, 2016, 06:19:13 PM

Posted it over on OWWM forum and was told it is a drawbore pin..................and I believe it!

Again I learn Something New

Here's a description i found
“Hook-pin, or draw-bore-pin, a piece of steel in the shape of a fustrum of a cone, rather tapered, and inserted into a handle, with the greatest diameter next to the handle, for driving through the draw-bores of a mortise and tenon, in order to bring the shoulder of the rail close home to the abutment on the edge of the style”.

The wooden-handled variety of steel draw-bore pins are intended for dry-assembling framed carcasses and door frames etc. to check the fit prior to committing to finally hammering home the wooden pegs.

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 10, 2016, 07:38:12 PM

Same description I came up with. After looking a little more around on the interweb it seems the crucial step is to drill the hole in the tenon slightly offset towards the shoulder from the center of the mortise hole or bore. The wood dowel when inserted and driven will deform through the bore and draw the tenon into the mortice. Very cool dry joint

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: coz on January 12, 2016, 06:16:58 AM

Marlin spike is gaining some ground because of the sharp point.

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: bill300d on January 12, 2016, 07:47:12 AM

Most marlin spikes have no wooden handle. My moneys on drawbore pin.

Title: Re: Rosewood Handled whatsit (I think its an easy one)
Post by: dowdstools on January 15, 2016, 12:45:48 PM

I second (or third) the opinion it is a draw bore.

Lynn