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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: blackoak on January 18, 2016, 04:20:27 PM

Title: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: blackoak on January 18, 2016, 04:20:27 PM: Had these for several years. Pat. Nov, 23 1909 cast in the handle. Look like something for twisting wire into something useful, maybe S hooks?? If it is I can't figure out how to use it. Has slots on each jaw with lugs that are hooked for locking on and holding.
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(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c253/blackoak/102_9667.jpg)[/URA couple more pictures of it. I took it apart so you can see how it's designed better. I still think it's for bending or making something out of semi heavy wire such as No. 9 fence wire, but just a WAG. The two slots in each of the jaws are made so you can close the jaws and it will close up around whatever is inside and hold it in place, The lugs are for sure made to lock on something and hold it in place while twisting or turning it.
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I may have figured what this does. I'm thinking a fence tool of some kind maybe barbwire twisting- mending????? It will put a very tight twist on wire if you make a loop and run the ends through the center and bend the tag end around the lugs and start twisting. once tight open the jaws and the tag ends will slide through that slots releasing the wire. Turn it over and the lugs are position so you can un-twist the wire. I used very small wire in these pictures and much larger could be used. I may be wrong , but that's my guess.
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Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: Lostmind on January 18, 2016, 04:42:24 PM: WAG - a saw set
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: Papaw on January 18, 2016, 05:31:58 PM: Might be a bung wrench.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: Ken W. on January 18, 2016, 07:03:49 PM: Could be a tire chain tool.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: bill300d on January 18, 2016, 09:08:54 PM: here you go
https://www.google.com/patents/US940823?dq=nov+23+1909&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWhbqg8rTKAhUBNj4KHZ2aBf84qgEQ6wEIIzAB (https://www.google.com/patents/US940823?dq=nov+23+1909&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWhbqg8rTKAhUBNj4KHZ2aBf84qgEQ6wEIIzAB)
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: blackoak on January 19, 2016, 12:42:02 AM: Quote from: bill300d on January 18, 2016, 09:08:54 PM
here you go
https://www.google.com/patents/US940823?dq=nov+23+1909&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWhbqg8rTKAhUBNj4KHZ2aBf84qgEQ6wEIIzAB (https://www.google.com/patents/US940823?dq=nov+23+1909&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWhbqg8rTKAhUBNj4KHZ2aBf84qgEQ6wEIIzAB)
Thank you for finding this info. I was close to what my guess was for it's use. I was starting to think it may has been used to twist on the barbs on some of the early barbed wire fence. Again thanks for the information.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: turnnut on January 19, 2016, 12:45:48 PM: interesting tool, it is not shown in the "stretchers and strainers" fence and wire tools book by Conrad E. Bose, Alma, Nebraska.

then yet, the book was written in 1975, and research was not as simple as it is today.

reading the patent, tells a lot about the use of the tool,

"TOOL FOR FORMING WIRE JOINTS." patented on Nov. 23, 1909
patent # 940,823 issued to Abraham B. Probasco

this invention relates to a tool to be used for the purpose of completing the spliced joint whereby the ends of two wires are to be connected.

it is more particularly adapted for use on fence-wires and in such cases where close proximity of the ground or of other wires renders
convenient manipulation of a tool difficult.

again, thank you for showing it on tool talk, the place for learning.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: Northwoods on January 19, 2016, 03:06:59 PM: So, it's definitely not a leather working too!?
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: Aunt Phil on January 19, 2016, 04:50:30 PM: It's a damn $20 bill.
Normal use would be to put it in an envelope and send it to Aunt Phil, General Delivery, Hamlin, NY but being a $20- I don't touch the filthy things. Send a $50- instead.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: blackoak on January 19, 2016, 07:45:05 PM: Quote from: Aunt Phil on January 19, 2016, 04:50:30 PM
It's a damn $20 bill.
Normal use would be to put it in an envelope and send it to Aunt Phil, General Delivery, Hamlin, NY but being a $20- I don't touch the filthy things. Send a $50- instead.
You lost me on this post.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: bill300d on January 19, 2016, 08:09:26 PM: Quote from: blackoak on January 19, 2016, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: Aunt Phil on January 19, 2016, 04:50:30 PM
It's a damn $20 bill.
Normal use would be to put it in an envelope and send it to Aunt Phil, General Delivery, Hamlin, NY but being a $20- I don't touch the filthy things. Send a $50- instead.
You lost me on this post.
the paper money in your first pic.
Title: Re: What is it and how the heck do you use it
Post by: turnnut on January 19, 2016, 08:47:45 PM: I heard that the twenty was sent to Aunt Phil, but it was refused and the envelope was stamped, "return to sender"

sorry, you only get one chance Aunt Phil.