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Title: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Ray Smi7th on February 22, 2016, 06:46:50 PM: Bought these at an antique shop that I frequent whilst looking for knives. Not sure of their purpose. Stamped,"BERNARD" on both handles.Stamping "W.Schollhorn Co. New Haven Conn. Pat.6-17-1913". Parallel jaws;2 half circles cut into each jaw;one of which has an adjustable pin protruding into the side of the opposite jaw which has a cutting edge affixed with 2 screws.
Anyone have a clue as to what purpose these served? I am not good at looking up patents.
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Plyerman on February 22, 2016, 06:59:57 PM: Those are for cutting and splicing round belts, typically used on industrial sewing machines. Here's the patent on Datamp:

http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=488785&id=40378&set=15
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: lptools on February 22, 2016, 07:01:42 PM: I am guessing sewing machine belt pliers, for cutting the round belt, and the pin is the splicing part of the tool. I will look up the patent to verify. Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: lptools on February 22, 2016, 07:02:28 PM: Hello, Plyerman. Looks like we were sending at the same time!!!!
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Plyerman on February 22, 2016, 07:08:01 PM: Quote from: lptools on February 22, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
Hello, Plyerman. Looks like we were sending at the same time!!!!

Haha, usually it's me who is a minute behind though! :grin:
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: lptools on February 22, 2016, 07:10:29 PM: That's the story of my life, too, especially at the Sunday A.M. Flea!!!!!
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Ray Smi7th on February 22, 2016, 08:02:35 PM: Thanks to both of you who responded so quickly! I couldn't pass them up as they looked to be in great shape and the price was right too($5). I'll be so ready when my next industrial sewing machine repair job comes along! lol Thanks again;it is appreciated.
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: turnnut on February 23, 2016, 09:31:38 AM: don't forget that a lot of foot powered woodworking machines also used the round belts.

you can still buy the round belts by the foot.
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Sudsy on February 23, 2016, 08:44:31 PM: The company has been around forever, known for their side-cutting pliers. Originally made for the cable and wire business but we surf fishermen have been carrying them on our belts forever - to the point where they have finally come out with one specifically for us, the Sportmate

http://www.sargenttools.com/About/Our-History/

http://www.sargenttools.com/Customer-Content/WWW/CMS/files/SportMate1028NN.pdf
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: JohnD on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 PM: I have a display board full of Bernard patent pliers including a few of these round belt pliers in a couple different sizes, maybe for 1/4" and 3/8" belts. One is also marked "Singer" and another one is "White" I think. Cutter trims belt and punches the hole in the right place for the steel staple that connects the ends. The end of jaws crimps the staple.
Title: Re: Mystery pliers...........
Post by: Aunt Phil on February 24, 2016, 05:01:38 PM: Quote from: JohnD on February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 PM
Cutter trims belt and punches the hole in the right place for the steel staple that connects the ends. The end of jaws crimps the staple.

You haven't tried using them yet, have you.