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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: Bus on May 04, 2016, 01:15:13 AM

Title: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Bus on May 04, 2016, 01:15:13 AM

Got the Du Charme rotating head wrench at the Spring Auction last Saturday. US Patent: No. 1,293,735 was issued to William S. Du Charme of Cleveland, Ohio on Feb. 11, 1919. Photo shows it and the other rotating head wrenches in my collection. Anybody know of any others?

Du Charme patent is on DATAMP at:
http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=1293735&id=25376&set=2
 (http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=1293735&id=25376&set=2)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13103390_10207657272244707_4591379431348634111_n.jpg?oh=2483a38736e60db3bfcb23b2361a29c9&oe=57B4DE2D)

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Lewill2 on May 04, 2016, 06:34:02 AM

Bus, Nice set of wrenches but I can't help with any others out there.

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: lptools on May 04, 2016, 07:25:20 AM

Hello, Bus. Thanks for posting. Those are very cool , and I have never seen anything like that in my travels. Regards, Lou

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: bonneyman on May 04, 2016, 09:42:07 AM

I have never seen anything like these in the wild. Very wild.

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: turnnut on May 04, 2016, 09:50:12 AM

Bus, nice grouping that you have there.  I have only seen pictures of that type of wrench.

if I see any in my travels, I will keep you in mind.

thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Plyerman on May 04, 2016, 09:52:04 AM

That's a neat grouping of wrenches Bus, and congrats on getting that Du Charme last week.

As regards locating others that are similar, the "Citations" feature of Google Patents is a trick that sometimes helps:

First go to the Google Patent page for your Du Charme wrench, pat 1293735  https://www.google.com/patents/US1293735

If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of that page, you see where the patent was REFERENCED BY two other more recent patents. Click on the Feb. 19, 2002 one by Jeffrey Weaver. (Which looks like a pretty neat rotating head wrench itself.)  https://www.google.com/patents/US20030154828

Now scroll all the way down to the bottom of that page, and under PATENT CITATIONS you get a list of 13 similar wrench patents. Clicking through them, I see a couple that you already have in your collection, but there are others that might still be out there....


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Hope that helps,
Bob

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Bus on May 04, 2016, 11:43:37 AM

Thanks Plyerman, there are some wild ones there including a buggy type wrench. That one would bring some spirited bidding at a wrench auction. Also one with rotating screwdriver bits on the other end!

The bottom one in my photo is marked  PAT JULY 27, 19O4 (which is not a patent date). Correct patent is probably 781,206 issued to Arthur C. Huckelbridge of Wellington, Kansas on Jan. 31, 1905.

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=781206&typeCode=0 (http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=781206&typeCode=0)

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: mikeswrenches on May 04, 2016, 11:49:54 AM

Bob, thanks for posting the Google patents "trick". I use GP's  quite a bit but wasn't aware of that little trick.  Will be of great help I'm sure.

Nice set of wrenches Bus. I've seen pictures of them but never one in the wild.

Mike

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: rustcollector on May 04, 2016, 06:22:56 PM

I'd be after the Waggoner patent pretty hard myself. That is a super cool looking wrench.
The Grover wrench is a NY wrench, so I'll have to be on the lookout for one of those too.

Quote from: Bus on May 04, 2016, 11:43:37 AM

Thanks Plyerman, there are some wild ones there including a buggy type wrench. That one would bring some spirited bidding at a wrench auction. Also one with rotating screwdriver bits on the other end!

The bottom one in my photo is marked  PAT JULY 27, 19O4 (which is not a patent date). Correct patent is probably 781,206 issued to Arthur C. Huckelbridge of Wellington, Kansas on Jan. 31, 1905.

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=781206&typeCode=0 (http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=781206&typeCode=0)

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Plyerman on May 04, 2016, 08:05:22 PM

There are indeed Grover wrenches out there to find. (pat 1321625) I saved this photo of one from last year's Donnelly auction, just because it looked cool. No idea how much it went for.




(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20III/Grover%20Wrench%20mjd_zpsbryfy54a.jpg)




(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20III/Grover%20Wrench_zpsprythmxc.jpg)

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Lewill2 on May 05, 2016, 05:45:16 AM

Plyerman, now that you bring up the Grover I have one of those in a leather sleeve someplace. I also found this advertisement during my research. I think they were meant for banjo tuning or something like that. No musical instruments on my end just tools.

Title: Re: Rotaing Head Wrenches
Post by: Lewill2 on May 05, 2016, 05:52:12 AM

Not a very clear picture but this is my Grover and the leather sleeve for it.