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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: dkelly701 on June 22, 2016, 04:42:15 PM
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My father gave me this old socket set. He said he got it from his father but he's not sure where his father acquired it from. I found some information on ebay but they were listed as WALDEN WORCESTER AND MOSSBERG and this one is Billings & Spencer Co. Looks to be complete with maybe a few extras. Any info appreciated.
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(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc371/dkelly701/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-21%2018.15.20_zpsoijf0xek.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/dkelly701/media/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-21%2018.15.20_zpsoijf0xek.jpg.html)
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Looks like you have a fine ratchet. See it here: http://alloy-artifacts.org/billings-spencer-company-p2.html#early-sockets
The sockets may or may not match the ratchet (look for the B-Triangle logo) and the box may or may not match the set.
Just a guess--but the box and sockets may have been manufactured by Mossberg and branded to Triumph. The ratchet likely came from another source.
Do a Google image to find a couple of other Triumph boxes--one with a ratchet marked W & M Co identified by alloy artifacts as having been made by Mossberg for Sears back in the day. http://alloy-artifacts.org/frank-mossberg-company-p2.html
It gets complicated.
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Plenty info on Alloy Artifacts- http://alloy-artifacts.org/billings-spencer-company-p2.html (http://alloy-artifacts.org/billings-spencer-company-p2.html)
But I didn't see Triumph.
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I think you hit the nail on the head with the miss matched set. I found some sockets with just the size on them, a few with what I take is the Mossberg logo, and some with nothing on them at all (or that I can see).
Looks like you have a fine ratchet. See it here: http://alloy-artifacts.org/billings-spencer-company-p2.html#early-sockets
The sockets may or may not match the ratchet (look for the B-Triangle logo) and the box may or may not match the set.
Just a guess--but the box and sockets may have been manufactured by Mossberg and branded to Triumph. The ratchet likely came from another source.
Do a Google image to find a couple of other Triumph boxes--one with a ratchet marked W & M Co identified by alloy artifacts as having been made by Mossberg for Sears back in the day. http://alloy-artifacts.org/frank-mossberg-company-p2.html
It gets complicated.
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc371/dkelly701/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.43.04_zpshsywr6qn.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/dkelly701/media/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.43.04_zpshsywr6qn.jpg.html)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc371/dkelly701/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.41.16_zpsiuavvw7j.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/dkelly701/media/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.41.16_zpsiuavvw7j.jpg.html)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc371/dkelly701/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.42.09_zps6n7wjay6.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/dkelly701/media/TRIUMPH%20WRENCH%20SET/2016-06-22%2023.42.09_zps6n7wjay6.jpg.html)
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I really like the looks of that ratchet and the box label. I've never seen either one of them before. Thanks for the post.
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The M in a diamond is definitely Mossberg's logo.
Jim
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The 2 red label pictures do not fully load for me so I don't know if the following is printed on them.
I believe Triumph was located on W 53rd st in NYC in the 1920's - 30's. They were an automotive aftermarket supplier sort of like JC Whitney or Mandel in Chicago.