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Title: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 04, 2016, 09:45:09 PM
Unmarked, 4-7/8"L, nickel plated.  Couldn't find in either Schulz or Cope wrench books.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Lewill2 on September 05, 2016, 07:48:16 AM
Nice little wrench, I haven't seen one like that before. Looks like the spacer above the adjusting nut is out of place, after thought or replacement adjusting nut?? I t would have followed me home too. Nice find.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: bonneyman on September 05, 2016, 06:05:29 PM
So, one side has teeth for grip - the other side is flat for those fasteners you don't want to scratch up?????

Interesting little tool though.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Plyerman on September 06, 2016, 08:21:27 PM
I don't recognize it. Too bad there are no markings.  /-:
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: turnnut on September 06, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
 ? did you take it apart to check for writing on the track bar ??

 just a thought, Frank
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 07, 2016, 05:42:13 PM
I just increased the coolness factor.  Couldn't find a mfg mark, but it has a screwdriver in its handle!!!
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Lewill2 on September 07, 2016, 06:40:54 PM
Similar in design to the Boardman wrench. Boardman had a hammer head & tack puller as well as a screw driver tip on the end of the main shaft of the wrench.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Yadda on September 07, 2016, 07:16:08 PM
Reminds me of the Trimo Emergency Wrench.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: bill300d on September 07, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
That's the one I was trying to think of Yadda.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: turnnut on September 07, 2016, 09:29:57 PM
  just another curious question,

 can you tell what the threads are ?   UNC,  NPT OR perhaps Metric ???

 ?? maybe from the UK ?
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 07, 2016, 10:05:30 PM
handle screw o.d. is 11/64" x 18 thread
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Lewill2 on September 08, 2016, 05:54:33 AM
11/64 or 11/32? 11/64 seems really small for the threads of a handle.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: turnnut on September 08, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
  ???  5/16-18 thread ???
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 08, 2016, 03:58:59 PM
my bad 11/32" x 18
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Lewill2 on September 08, 2016, 06:37:36 PM
Like Turnnut, probably 5/16 - 18 thread.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Plyerman on September 08, 2016, 09:31:04 PM
Yeah that's nowhere near any metric thread size.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: turnnut on September 10, 2016, 04:02:22 PM
 hello tool talkers, that picture kept bugging me, my mind kept telling me that I have seen that type of wrench.

 I had a few moments to myself and looked for info.  if you have " The Adjustable Spanner"  book by Ron Geesin, look
 on page 125, left side of the page,  John Henry Morgan, inventor.  1902

 that is a very close to what is posted by JPRI,  yes, you will notice differences in them. it may be or not be the same invention.
 but as wrench collectors, we all, at one time or another found wrenches that did not look exactly like the patent.

 at times, an inventor changes mfg's for some reason, and that mfg. might have different ways of making that product, but the
 wrench still falls in line with the patented idea.

 just my 2 cents for now. Frank

 ps, even though it's a new book, I still had to hunt it down, you know where I found it ??  yup, right where I left it.   
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Papaw on September 10, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
I bet it was in the last place you looked!
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 10, 2016, 07:00:12 PM
Hey Turnnut...I searched DATAMP for "John Henry Morgan" with no hits.  I then searched wrench patents granted or applied between 1900 and 1902 (few hundred) with no luck either.  Is that a UK patent book?  Could you post a pic or scan of that page you found?
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: bill300d on September 10, 2016, 08:03:36 PM
Here's the patent for you.https://www.google.com/patents/US718501?dq=john+henry+morgan&hl=en&sa=X&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0ahUKEwij_4rWjobPAhWSix4KHXoEBSoQ6wEIOTAE (https://www.google.com/patents/US718501?dq=john+henry+morgan&hl=en&sa=X&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0ahUKEwij_4rWjobPAhWSix4KHXoEBSoQ6wEIOTAE)
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: turnnut on September 10, 2016, 08:31:37 PM
JPRI, 1st, I want to thank bill300d for bailing me out.

 as for a scan of the page, I believe that we should get Ron Geesin's permission first. it is in his book.
 also, I am not a computer whiz,  as many know, when I did put a few pictures up, my wife did it for me.
 now I have a new computer with windows 10.  yes, I am still tumbling with this one.
 
 the picture in the book looks more like your wrench.
 Ron states that the UK patent was GB190208641 for improvements in or relating to spanners or wrenches chiefly intended
 for use with cycles.

 Frank
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: JPRI on September 10, 2016, 08:35:19 PM
thanks Turnnut and Bill300d...that looks close, even mentions a screwdriver.  The only difference is this patent mentions doing away with the adjustment nut, but like you said, they could have manufactured it differently.  Glad I could find and post an oddity.
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: Yadda on September 10, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
A definite keeper!
Title: Re: Help Identify - 5" combo nut/pipe wrench
Post by: bill300d on September 10, 2016, 09:27:24 PM
A definite keeper!
For Sure!!

link to UK Patenthttps://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=GB137252024&recNum=1&maxRec=&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=NationalBiblio (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=GB137252024&recNum=1&maxRec=&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=NationalBiblio)