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Title: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 12, 2016, 08:17:48 AM
Greetings, its been a while busy summer :-)
Went to an auction a couple weeks ago and did not intend to purchase these but couldn't let em go for $5
Just wondering there main purpose was at their era, maybe still used; don't know.
Any help would be great, going to list them on eBay at some point if they are worth anything, maybe a collector would really enjoy them.


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Thanks for stopping by! Cheers - Jeff



















Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: international3414 on September 12, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
dude,you got all that for 5 bucks!...are all the wire tools marked bell system
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Northwoods on September 12, 2016, 01:31:30 PM
OMG.
Just OMG.
I have two nice pair and consider myself lucky.
Did you pull the fire alarm at the auction and stay behind?  ;-)
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 12, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
dude,you got all that for 5 bucks!...are all the wire tools marked bell system


Ya $5 for each display + 13% $11.30 total, opening bid was 5 and I was the only bidder, should of said a dollar. It was a live auction of course, folks didn't even know they were there until the helper pulled em down from the top shelf above eye level.


Wire tools, assuming the last 4 pics, will check em out tonight after dark or tomorrow while its raining and get back with you. :-)
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 12, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
OMG.
Just OMG.
I have two nice pair and consider myself lucky.
Did you pull the fire alarm at the auction and stay behind?  ;-)


ROTFL


Which ones you talking about the adjustable jaw tools or the wire tools?


From the sounds of it, a good score then? winning! I have not done any research what so ever - but will - just thought it would be nice to share with all you great folks here! :-)
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: bill300d on September 12, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
You can multiply your cost by 15 or 20. Nice day at the auction for you for sure.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Papaw on September 12, 2016, 03:51:40 PM
You have outdone most of us with that haul!
The Plierenches alone are of high value!
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: turnnut on September 12, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
 ????  "should have said a dollar." ???

NO-NO-NO, now that you started at $5  that auctioneer will consider you a high roller, he will always
 look for your bids.

 p.s. A great score.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: mvwcnews on September 12, 2016, 04:26:51 PM
For the first board, with the Eifel plier wrenches,  are they "Flash Sales" or "American Plierench"? Or some of both.
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=1,862,817&type= ) and ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=1,181,654&type= ) are DATAMP entries for pertinent patents.
The board with primarily telephone / telegraph lineman's tools does not lend itself to pointing to a patent or two to explain their function.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: lptools on September 12, 2016, 05:38:05 PM
Nice find!!!  Are those other jaws on the pliers board for the Plierenches? The tool with the hooks on the pliers board is a Cope. It would be mounted to a long pole, used for draping/hanging wires by a lineman. Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Yadda on September 12, 2016, 09:03:33 PM
.... Are those other jaws on the pliers board for the Plierenches? ....Regards, Lou

Yes, the extra jaws on the second board are also for plierenches. 
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Yadda on September 12, 2016, 09:18:49 PM
The first board has  two 8.5 inch 1922 "B" plierenches.  The middle one appears to have a round head screw so it is probably not original.  There are two 8.5 inch World Flight versions with the angled gears from 1925 to 1932.  They aren't dated.  There are three later 8.5 inch plierenches with dates.  There are also two of the 7 inch plierenches.  The last wrench on the board is a GripStik.  It is really neat.  It is gear driven too.   Let me know if you want your money back. I'll even spring for shipping! 
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Bill Houghton on September 13, 2016, 10:32:05 AM
The tool with the hooks on the pliers board is a Cope. It would be mounted to a long pole, used for draping/hanging wires by a lineman. Regards, Lou
So that's the tool they use to cope with the problem of wires in the way?

And, if an apprentice is finding it difficult to learn the fine art of moving the wires around, does s/he say, "I can't cope!"?

Eh?  What's that you say?  Heard it all before?
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Yadda on September 13, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
The tool with the hooks on the pliers board is a Cope. It would be mounted to a long pole, used for draping/hanging wires by a lineman. Regards, Lou
So that's the tool they use to cope with the problem of wires in the way?

And, if an apprentice is finding it difficult to learn the fine art of moving the wires around, does s/he say, "I can't cope!"?

Eh?  What's that you say?  Heard it all before?

Move the wires incorrectly and you might be shocked by the results.  :grin:
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: 3baygarage on September 14, 2016, 02:06:19 AM
That is a stellar find. So many in one place and those are nice pegboard displays.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 14, 2016, 05:22:52 AM
Good Morning,


Thank you all for your kind words, information and of course witt, love it!
This is going to cut my research by 90% just knowing what they are and what they were used for.
international3414: Most say Bell Systems but klein as well. At some point I will be taking close ups of each and every one, will post then,
mvwcnews: Thank you for the links, great info! looks like some of these may be pushing a century old or close to it, would be interesting to know their journey and the folks who acually used them. :-)



At the auction; the rack that these displayers were on was about 8 feet long and 7 feet tall with cantilevered shelves on both sides filled with cast iron vintage and antique implement seats, with the exception of the top rack which had these displays and a few other goodies, unfortunately it had rained in the morning and as you might have noticed; these wrenches/crimpers have a bit of surface rust, my question is: what is the most efficient and non-destructive method of cleaning these?


Available for cleaning:
Navel Jelly
Steel wool #0000
Tumbler
electrolysis tank
wire brushes
scotch brite pads
ect.


Second question; I have a gallon of gun bluing, after cleaning; a quick dip would darken them just a bit and protect em, what do you think?


Cheers - Jeff

Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Twertsy on September 14, 2016, 07:25:45 AM
Good Morning,


Thank you all for your kind words, information and of course witt, love it!
This is going to cut my research by 90% just knowing what they are and what they were used for.
international3414: Most say Bell Systems but klein as well. At some point I will be taking close ups of each and every one, will post then,
mvwcnews: Thank you for the links, great info! looks like some of these may be pushing a century old or close to it, would be interesting to know their journey and the folks who acually used them. :-)



At the auction; the rack that these displayers were on was about 8 feet long and 7 feet tall with cantilevered shelves on both sides filled with cast iron vintage and antique implement seats, with the exception of the top rack which had these displays and a few other goodies, unfortunately it had rained in the morning and as you might have noticed; these wrenches/crimpers have a bit of surface rust, my question is: what is the most efficient and non-destructive method of cleaning these?


Available for cleaning:
Navel Jelly
Steel wool #0000
Tumbler
electrolysis tank
wire brushes
scotch brite pads
ect.


Second question; I have a gallon of gun bluing, after cleaning; a quick dip would darken them just a bit and protect em, what do you think?


Cheers - Jeff

Electrolysis from that list.  And, I think you're about the get a tongue lashing on the bluing ...........................
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Papaw on September 14, 2016, 07:40:02 AM
For only surface rust do the least invasive cleaning possible.

Bluing? Probably not a good idea if you want to sell them in the future.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 14, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
OK OK no bluing then. :-)



Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: bill300d on September 14, 2016, 09:21:52 AM
Your favorite penetrating oil and a rag will take off any surface rust from getting wet, otherwise I would leave them alone.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: turnnut on September 14, 2016, 09:41:37 AM
 I agree with Bill,  if they were mine, I would use the rag with penetrating oil on them, that would be my 1st attempt.

 my penetrating oil of choice is "GIBBS",  but everyone has their favorite one.

 if they were off the board, I would try a penetrating oil and brushes by a toothbrush.

 again, that was a good grab of tools.
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on September 17, 2016, 11:11:16 AM
Thank you for the suggestions, the oil worked great.


As pics are taken for ebay, I will post them on wrench forum,


Thank you all for your replies and help!!!


Cheers - Jeff
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: wvtools on September 19, 2016, 07:50:55 PM
I frequently sell the plierenches for 25.00 per pair, and I usually get 5.00 each for the extra jaws.

I have a pair of the ones on the far right that I just bought to try selling on Ebay because I had never seen one like that before. 
Title: Re: Show and tell, what were these used for? auction buy
Post by: Yadda on September 19, 2016, 09:29:07 PM
I frequently sell the plierenches for 25.00 per pair, and I usually get 5.00 each for the extra jaws.

I have a pair of the ones on the far right that I just bought to try selling on Ebay because I had never seen one like that before.

The GripStik should go for $20+.  Most seem to go for more.