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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: skipskip on October 29, 2016, 04:29:39 PM

Title: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: skipskip on October 29, 2016, 04:29:39 PM
this one looks  like a few others but not quite.

any ideas?
thanks

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5492/30647947825_f68dd547f9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NGfK8x)DSCF1868 (https://flic.kr/p/NGfK8x) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

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Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: kwoswalt99 on October 29, 2016, 06:08:27 PM
That's the mysterious w mark that we couldn't agree upon who made it.
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: skipskip on October 29, 2016, 07:45:05 PM
I thought I remembered a discussion  but I cant find it.
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: kwoswalt99 on October 29, 2016, 08:03:52 PM
The latest is here: http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=29407.0
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: 3baygarage on October 31, 2016, 02:04:44 AM
As KW posted, this topic came up recently.

I have some questions if you don't mind.

First, any way you can add a photo of the drive side of the head?

Are there markings around the bottom of the handle?

The handle end certainly looks like Duro Chrome/Indestro however the transition from the beam to handle seems different.

Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: skipskip on October 31, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: 3baygarage on October 31, 2016, 02:04:44 AM
As KW posted, this topic came up recently.

I have some questions if you don't mind.

no mind here

First, any way you can add a photo of the drive side of the head?

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5749/30664908976_933e0b7c81_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NHKF6b)DSCF1899 (https://flic.kr/p/NHKF6b) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr

Are there markings around the bottom of the handle?

no

The handle end certainly looks like Duro Chrome/Indestro however the transition from the beam to handle seems different.

yes the end looks like Industro, but no marks at all on end of ratchet

drive side says Pat Pend
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: 3baygarage on November 02, 2016, 05:28:06 AM
Thanks. Very hard to tell but that side there reminds me of a Crescent ratchet.

I was curious if it happened to be this patent issued to JH Williams:

https://www.google.co.in/patents/US2706424?dq=US2706424+A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip1caN6InQAhUJ1CYKHSjfD1wQ6AEIGzAA (https://www.google.co.in/patents/US2706424?dq=US2706424+A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip1caN6InQAhUJ1CYKHSjfD1wQ6AEIGzAA)

Oddly, the later Crescent Niagara patent  http://www.google.com/patents/US2982161 (http://www.google.com/patents/US2982161) cites another patent belonging to the inventor of the above Williams patent ratchet.

This is too deep for me. Normally I can just look and tell but nothing conclusive here. Staring at patent sketches too long can drive a guy nuts.
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: kwoswalt99 on November 02, 2016, 06:01:17 AM
I think you found it.
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: bill300d on November 02, 2016, 04:06:01 PM
With out seeing the inside of that ratchet you will never know if either one of those pertain or not. Both patents are for the drive mechanism, nothing to do with the design of the ratchet its self.
Title: Re: Need ID ratchet marked W HS-52
Post by: kwoswalt99 on November 02, 2016, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: bill300d on November 02, 2016, 04:06:01 PM
With out seeing the inside of that ratchet you will never know if either one of those pertain or not. Both patents are for the drive mechanism, nothing to do with the design of the ratchet its self.

Yeah, but they look identical.