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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: rickg on March 17, 2018, 08:31:08 PM
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Hello everyone!
Clearly, I'm new to the forum. I found these items at a going out of business sale in town. The store was a lamp and hardware store but one of those hoity toity high priced ones. Looking at their price tags I could see why. Even at 80% off I wasn't buying much there. BUT...I did come across these. The first one looks to have a logo stamped on it but upon closer inspection it seems to my like it's an address. If the shaft was larger I'd say it's a mouse for an anvil but it's only about 1/4" or so square at the top. The 2nd one has markings but the spine has been hit with a hammer so many times it's hard to be make out the markings but 1 side has a patent date on it of what appears to be Nov 25 70. The last is a set of hand drill bits marked with a C inside a diagonal square. Any help identifying these would be greatly appreciated!
Ok, well evidently I can't upload any photos. I've resized them down to a quarter of the original size and I'm still getting the error that they're too big. And I tried only attaching 1 photo. Any suggestions?
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I have CRS so i don't recall the largest size the site will take, but I use a freeware program called Irfanview and there is an option to save pictures down to a certain K size and that works well.
Welcome to the forums and we look forward to hearing more about your finds and seeing the pictures. :smiley:
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rickg, Welcome. Try resizing your photos about 400 x 600 pixels. Even a little larger should post fine. I am using postimages.org to host my photos.
Al
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Thanks guys, here's the first one
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another
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And the logo that appears to be a street address
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Here's the 2nd item
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and another
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Hello, Rick. Nice finds!!!!!! From what I looked at, Nov 25 1870 is not a valid patent date. Regards, Lou
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That first looks like a small die with stake that goes into a small anvil hardie hole.
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Good pictures Rick! But no idea what they are. However the patent date is an issue - It's clearly November, followed by a single digit date (not 25) and it does look like 187(*) the last year digit being unsure.
A search of DATAMP of Nov (1-9) and 187(0-9) turned up nothing similar - unless I missed something.
Al
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Thanks Toad, I kinda thought the same thing about that one but wasn't sure.
amecks, I have to disagree with you, however, I can see why you might think that from the photo. I actually have 2 of the same item with the same numbers. Some numbers are more clear on each one. It is definitely Nov 25. The year is only 2 digits. There is a dot between the day and the last 2 digits for the year. This is what it looks like - NOV 25.70 but it could be NOV 25.90. The other side says J.R. something. After J.R. is a name. I'm sure this is the manufacturer but I can't make out the last name because it is on the spine closest to the spikes that dig in. The spine has been beat pretty good with a hammer, thus flattening it out and making the tops of the letters unable to discern.
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Hello, Rick. I am with Al on this one. Patent Dates are specific, you have to find the right sequence of month /day/year. Nov. 25 70 is not a valid date, and neither is Nov 25 90. These these could be filing dates, application dates, or maybe even Design Patent dates. There are others on here who are better at Patent searches than I am. Still a cool piece, though. Regards, Lou
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Here's a better picture.
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I think it’s Nov 15, 1870 and it could correspond to this patent.
http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=109221&id=39114
Mike
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Hello. Again, I defer to the better researchers in this group. Nice job on figuring that out, Mike.!!!!! Town of Geddes is somewhere between where I live, and where Amecks calls home, maybe even closer to Oldrencher. Always like to see the local connections, Lou
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Even though those were probably made for wood shingles I'm not so sure I would trust that as a roof jack. I could see it maybe as a snow catcher.
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Good work guys! Geddes is local - a close suburb of Syracuse.
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Looks like you found it Mike! I can't see where it's marked 15 on the tools, still looks like a 2 but it could very well be a misprint on the actual tool. Either way, thanks for the help guys!
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The first one looks like a cobbler's glazing iron head. I have not see that pattern before. The second one could be a strap clamp.
EDIT: Sorry; I did not click on the link for the second one to see what it was before posting.
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Hello, I agree with Bill, the only thing that this had to grab was a wood shingle, you were then relying on the shear strength of the existing nails, and the gripper teeth. My guess on the patent number is that these were also hard to remove, a few hammer whacks to release it, number could have been de-formed after repeated use (or mis-use). My $.02 worth, Lou
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The first one is a smithing stake.
Chilly
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The first one is a smithing stake.
Chilly
If you look on page 123 of Salaman's Dictionary of Leatherworking Tools (Fig. 2:106), it describes this corrugated type of cobbler's glazing iron.
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wvtools is correct. After his first post I searched ebay for cobbler's glazing iron head and found a lot of them and one very similar to the example I have was in the lot. Thanks everyone for your input!