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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: international3414 on May 19, 2018, 12:28:11 PM

Title: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 19, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
cone tool,marked virax,made in france
red handle starbuck,pat applies for,not a clue?
screw driver buell brothers,didnt look it up yet,cool handle
other tool.i guess missing something??
any ideas,appreciated.....
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: oldgoaly on May 19, 2018, 12:34:05 PM
I'm thinking the cone expander  is used in lead pipe work, drains, vents, phone company.
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Danks on May 19, 2018, 05:05:42 PM
Starbuck grips pipe or fittings on the internal opening
The long jaws are dished on the parallel outer faces so that there are 4 contact points on the internal surface of the pipe or fitting.
I hope this makes sense to all. Cheers
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 20, 2018, 07:07:17 PM
no luck finding starbuck patent or much about the company .....everything's coffee.....
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: lptools on May 20, 2018, 07:13:37 PM
I found this company.         http://www.starbuckplumbing.com
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: pritch on May 20, 2018, 07:36:27 PM
I think the cone expander is a type of tub drain wrench, but I can't see it being all that effective. I have that same Starbuck around here somewhere. I think the tool with the socket looking end is a valve seat grinder.

Here's my Starbuck:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/gpritch/tools/tools005_zps861c87ee.jpg)

My valve grinder, along with a few other things:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/gpritch/tools/moreoldtools003.jpg)

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Danks on May 21, 2018, 12:57:49 AM
Try this Patent for the Starbuck - 2,624,222   Jan. 06, 1953   A.R. Joy   Plumber's Spud-Wrench
Cheers
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 21, 2018, 04:09:02 AM
the valve seat grinder,has a very shinny mirror like finish on the end,thought that was unusual....thanks all
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: jimwrench on May 21, 2018, 08:15:30 AM
 Expanding pliers are for expanding lead pipe. They are Stanley but not marked Stanley. Fairly common have seen as many as 4 pair at MVWC meet
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: mvwcnews on May 21, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
Starbuck adjustable spud wrench  ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=2624222&typeCode=0 ) patent from 1953.
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: amecks on May 21, 2018, 02:48:10 PM
   There was a Starbuck wrench on display at the Curtiss Museum in Hammondsport, NY.  The problem was it was displayed with tools for early 20th century autos (early like the 1900's to 20's).  I pointed it out to the director and he "fixed" the display.  Not sure where the wrench ended up after that.
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Papaw on May 21, 2018, 05:21:30 PM
QuoteI pointed it out to the director and he "fixed" the display.  Not sure where the wrench ended up after that.

Some museums don't want to hear that they have made a mistake. Even our local one ( And I was  Board Member at that time ! ) is reluctant to change anything. They acquired a lot of WWII items for a display, and one item was a brass tag that they had labeled as part of a Japanese Zero. I researched it and it was an ID tag for a telescope used to guide antiaircraft guns. The accessions manager said OKAY , but wouldn't change the display.
Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Bill Houghton on May 27, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: Papaw on May 21, 2018, 05:21:30 PMSome museums don't want to hear that they have made a mistake.
I can't tell you how many Stanley 45s I've seen on display assembled incorrectly.  I've stopped even trying to let the staff know.