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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: international3414 on May 19, 2018, 12:28:11 PM

Title: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 19, 2018, 12:28:11 PM

cone tool,marked virax,made in france
red handle starbuck,pat applies for,not a clue?
screw driver buell brothers,didnt look it up yet,cool handle
other tool.i guess missing something??
any ideas,appreciated.....

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: oldgoaly on May 19, 2018, 12:34:05 PM

I'm thinking the cone expander  is used in lead pipe work, drains, vents, phone company.

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Danks on May 19, 2018, 05:05:42 PM

Starbuck grips pipe or fittings on the internal opening
The long jaws are dished on the parallel outer faces so that there are 4 contact points on the internal surface of the pipe or fitting.
I hope this makes sense to all. Cheers

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 20, 2018, 07:07:17 PM

no luck finding starbuck patent or much about the company .....everything's coffee.....

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: lptools on May 20, 2018, 07:13:37 PM

I found this company.         http://www.starbuckplumbing.com

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: pritch on May 20, 2018, 07:36:27 PM

I think the cone expander is a type of tub drain wrench, but I can't see it being all that effective. I have that same Starbuck around here somewhere. I think the tool with the socket looking end is a valve seat grinder.

Here's my Starbuck:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/gpritch/tools/tools005_zps861c87ee.jpg)

My valve grinder, along with a few other things:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/gpritch/tools/moreoldtools003.jpg)

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Danks on May 21, 2018, 12:57:49 AM

Try this Patent for the Starbuck - 2,624,222   Jan. 06, 1953   A.R. Joy   Plumber's Spud-Wrench
Cheers

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: international3414 on May 21, 2018, 04:09:02 AM

the valve seat grinder,has a very shinny mirror like finish on the end,thought that was unusual....thanks all

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: jimwrench on May 21, 2018, 08:15:30 AM

 Expanding pliers are for expanding lead pipe. They are Stanley but not marked Stanley. Fairly common have seen as many as 4 pair at MVWC meet

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: mvwcnews on May 21, 2018, 10:02:40 AM

Starbuck adjustable spud wrench  ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=2624222&typeCode=0 ) patent from 1953.

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: amecks on May 21, 2018, 02:48:10 PM

   There was a Starbuck wrench on display at the Curtiss Museum in Hammondsport, NY.  The problem was it was displayed with tools for early 20th century autos (early like the 1900's to 20's).  I pointed it out to the director and he "fixed" the display.  Not sure where the wrench ended up after that.

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Papaw on May 21, 2018, 05:21:30 PM

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I pointed it out to the director and he "fixed" the display.  Not sure where the wrench ended up after that.

Some museums don't want to hear that they have made a mistake. Even our local one ( And I was  Board Member at that time ! ) is reluctant to change anything. They acquired a lot of WWII items for a display, and one item was a brass tag that they had labeled as part of a Japanese Zero. I researched it and it was an ID tag for a telescope used to guide antiaircraft guns. The accessions manager said OKAY , but wouldn't change the display.

Title: Re: unknown tools,maybe plumbing
Post by: Bill Houghton on May 27, 2018, 02:22:00 PM

Quote from: Papaw on May 21, 2018, 05:21:30 PM

Some museums don't want to hear that they have made a mistake.

I can't tell you how many Stanley 45s I've seen on display assembled incorrectly.  I've stopped even trying to let the staff know.