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Title: German Wrench
Post by: Papaw on March 17, 2019, 01:25:35 PM
Another wrench question from email-
Can anyone shed some light on this wrench from Germany ? 5/8 with a logo that looks like an eagle to me.
I am not sure what the purpose of the swinging jaw is other than to fit other sizes.
Not in Schultz , unless it is a derivative of #785 , which is called a Chromna Bolgt , and was made in Sweden.

Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: amecks on March 17, 2019, 01:32:57 PM
The jaw when closed, looks to me it would grab 5 sides of a hex head bolt/nut.  The pivot would allow it to release the nut and maybe it would also have a ratcheting effect?  Quite a tool.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: J.A.F.E. on March 17, 2019, 01:56:04 PM
I believe amecks is correct it looks like a ratcheting open end to me as well.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Northwoods on March 17, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
And Germany is written in English.
No mention of East or West.
Strange.
Made for export?
Never saw anything like it.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Papaw on March 17, 2019, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: Northwoods on March 17, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
And Germany is written in English.
No mention of East or West.
Strange.
Made for export?
Never saw anything like it.
And it is 5/8 to boot.
I have not seen anything like it either.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: hmboo on April 04, 2019, 06:30:18 AM
The two Horseheads Mark leads to H.Wilke & Co,Remscheid from the 1930 to 1940
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Papaw on April 04, 2019, 10:18:03 AM
Great ! I will let him know .
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on April 04, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
I feel like I want to try that wrench out. To see if that goofy hinged jaw really "ratchets," or whatever.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on April 16, 2019, 11:34:50 PM
Someone has one of these listed on eBay. It is marked 5/8 and BEKKA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Odd-Rare-Antique-Adjusting-Ratchet-Wrench-Tool-Bekka-5-8/401747679573?hash=item5d8a071955:g:QmkAAOSwveFcUlgs
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on April 18, 2019, 08:41:55 PM
Hah!! I was researching a completely different wrench when I stumbled across this U.S. patent. (There's no listing for it on Datamp.) 
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on April 18, 2019, 08:44:49 PM
Text says:  Be it known that I, PAUL MEYER, a subject of the German Emperor, and resident of Solingen, Germany, have invented certain new and useful Improvements in Screw- Wrenches, of which the following is a specification.

This invention relates to an improved screw-wrench of ratchet like action, of which the novelty consists in that the open key of the same engages a six-cornered nut on five sides and that any spring or similar auxiliary means are omitted.

In the accompanying drawing, Figures 1 and 2 show side views of the improved screw-wrench with closed key and open key respectively.......
Etc, etc, etc.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: EVILDR235 on April 19, 2019, 01:25:16 AM
Ohhh, German wrench. I thought it said German wench and my wife leaned over and said VERBODEN dummkopf.

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Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on May 08, 2019, 09:39:33 PM
Found this listing on French ebay. Dang, these things must have been pretty popular over in Europe back in the day. Still don't understand why they are marked in fractional sizes though.

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Lot-de-3-anciennes-cles-plates-a-systeme-DRP-outils-anciens-garage-atelier/153415274194?hash=item23b8434ed2:g:TKEAAOSwPa1cigOW
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: mvwcnews on May 21, 2019, 08:35:01 AM
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=62039&id=61597 ) The Austrian patent makes all clear -- if you versteh Deutsch. ;-{)  The whole thing is explained in the title, and the drawing shows the hexagon nuts & hang hole in the handle.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Papaw on May 21, 2019, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: mvwcnews on May 21, 2019, 08:35:01 AM
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=62039&id=61597 ) The Austrian patent makes all clear -- if you versteh Deutsch. ;-{)  The whole thing is explained in the title, and the drawing shows the hexagon nuts & hang hole in the handle.

Thanks !!!
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on May 21, 2019, 08:09:10 PM
Thanks Stan!
Hmmm, very interesting. Makes a person wonder why this design didn't catch on here in the states.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: mvwcnews on May 23, 2019, 11:53:49 PM
One more thing -- a note earlier in the thread prompted me to do the obvious "advanced book search" and Nov. 16, 1911 American Machinist gives us the name of one German manufacturer  (WILKE)  & the importer ready to sell "eight sizes" in the U.S. ( https://books.google.com/books/content?id=7e1BAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA952&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1xu-r7Dgwz0MXN9HUvqGWKUZNItQ&ci=75%2C299%2C276%2C449&edge=0 ).
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Papaw on May 24, 2019, 10:19:15 AM
I have relayed all this info to the owner. Thanks !
A great job of research guys !
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: humber2 on June 01, 2019, 02:21:00 AM
Google rexos spanner for more info.
Title: Re: German Wrench
Post by: Plyerman on June 02, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: humber2 on June 01, 2019, 02:21:00 AM
Google rexos spanner for more info.

Wow, thank you for the great tip! There is a good history of the Rexos Spanner (in England) posted on this site here: http://www.lathes.co.uk/rexos/