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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: Plyerman on June 12, 2019, 06:22:28 PM

Title: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Plyerman on June 12, 2019, 06:22:28 PM
Any ideas? I'm thinking possibly chain pliers, but that's just a wild guess.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: skipskip on June 12, 2019, 08:09:34 PM
they feel medical/veterinary at all?

Skip
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Plyerman on June 12, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
they feel medical/veterinary at all?

Skip

Hmmm, not really. The end of one handle is formed into a screwdriver tip.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: wvtools on June 12, 2019, 09:42:57 PM
I find it odd that you listed this tool the same day that I cleaned one getting ready for a tractor show.  I have never seen one before, and now that makes 2 in one day.  I will have to look at mine more closely tomorrow, and see if I can come up with a guess.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: lptools on June 13, 2019, 05:36:32 AM
Battery post? With crimper?
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: markhm on June 13, 2019, 06:25:06 AM
I go with chain pliers.
Completely different than current ones.

The tips appear to be designed to open and spread chain.
The internal notches seem to be to close links of chain.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Yadda on June 13, 2019, 06:36:23 AM
I go with chain pliers.
Completely different than current ones.

The tips appear to be designed to open and spread chain.
The internal notches seem to be to close links of chain.

+1

Another nice find!
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: papadan on June 13, 2019, 04:21:26 PM
I'm leaning to Lou, definite crimper and the end spreader.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Plyerman on June 14, 2019, 07:51:54 AM
I find it odd that you listed this tool the same day that I cleaned one getting ready for a tractor show.  I have never seen one before, and now that makes 2 in one day.  I will have to look at mine more closely tomorrow, and see if I can come up with a guess.

Are there any markings on yours wv? Mine are only stamped PAT. PEND'G on both faces.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: wvtools on June 14, 2019, 09:31:49 AM
I will have to check this weekend.  My loaner work Jeep broke down 2 hours from home.  I am lucky I did not wreck. I think a wheel bearing went bad and it started wobbling, breaking off 2 of the 5 wheel studs.   My regular work Jeep was already in the shop getting transmission work.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: wvtools on June 14, 2019, 10:27:27 PM
Mine say they same thing on them -- Pat. Pend. on both sides of the pliers.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Plyerman on June 15, 2019, 07:41:41 AM
Wow, sounds like you had an exciting day. I had a wheel bearing "incident" myself a few years ago. The damn things never seem to go bad in the driveway at home, unfortunately.

Anyhow, thanks for checking on the plier tool. I'm still leaning towards it being a chain tool, just because it seems to duplicate the functions of other "known" chain pliers, like this one:

from Datamp
(http://www.datamp.org/images/49637-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: wvtools on June 15, 2019, 12:15:36 PM
Once I looked at those spreaders on the end of it, I decided you were right about it being a chain tool.  They look more convincing in person than on a photo.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: amecks on June 15, 2019, 08:48:28 PM
I tried using Bing's "Search Images" feature.  It returned a couple hundred similar images of which about 50 are other tools that we can't figure out what they're for.   :huh:

When you guys were saying chain tool, I was thinking of roller chain and it didn't seem to fit.  But now looking at Plyermans post with the link chain pliers, I am on board with chain tool.  I need to look in my pliers box and see if there's chain pliers in there.

Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: crankshaftdan II on June 15, 2019, 09:39:38 PM
Pliers marked with the Weed name were mfg. for tire chains-don't know if chains were on auto tires that early??
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Plyerman on June 16, 2019, 07:28:57 AM
Pliers marked with the Weed name were mfg. for tire chains-don't know if chains were on auto tires that early??

All this investigation has made me realize there are (at least) three different applications for "chain pliers".

- Tire chain pliers, with WEED type being the most common.
- Roller chain pliers
- Lighting fixture chain pliers, with the type shown in patent 1,320,547 above being the most common.

It seems like the pliery tool I have would most likely be the lighting fixture chain type? But I'm not 100% sure, because the spreader jaws are relatively wide (about 3/4") whereas on the patent 1,320,547 tool the spreader jaws are narrow, in order to get inside of rounded chain links. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: lptools on June 16, 2019, 10:36:30 AM
Hello, I stand corrected!! I can see those coming in handy for lighting fixture chain!!  Surely more effective and a lot less damaging to the chain than 2 lineman pliers to open & close the links. Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: Chillylulu on June 16, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
I have little confidence in this, but it is an alternate to chain pliers.

Cable crimp pliers?  Older aircraft has lots of cables that get crimped together...

Chilly
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: lptools on June 23, 2019, 08:07:48 AM
Hello, Time to eat a little more crow. I dug these out of the garage, definitely Chain Pliers. In raised lettering on the handles MALLEABLE IRON ??? CHAIN PLIERS PATENTED.. Inside the handles; C P SCHRIVER CO.  CIN. O. 1,320,547.  The question marks are for three symbols I can't clearly read, possibly I X L.  Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: mvwcnews on June 23, 2019, 01:38:25 PM
Hello, Time to eat a little more crow. I dug these out of the garage, definitely Chain Pliers. In raised lettering on the handles MALLEABLE IRON ??? CHAIN PLIERS PATENTED.. Inside the handles; C P SCHRIVER CO.  CIN. O. 1,320,547.  The question marks are for three symbols I can't clearly read, possibly I X L.  Regards, Lou
Pronounce I X L out loud -- Schriver's chain pliers were not the only tool to incorporate that claim in their brand. ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=1320547&typeCode=0 ) is the patent number.
Title: Re: Unknown pliery type tool
Post by: lptools on June 23, 2019, 05:35:23 PM
Thanks for the info. I read the patent info more thoroughly this time around!!! Regards, Lou