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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: coolford on February 23, 2020, 03:40:08 PM
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Bought at an estate auction yesterday. It is mostly bronze or brass, does not clean up much with Brasso. It is 9 1/2 inches long and weights 1 3/4 pounds. The wheel is magnetic as is as area where the bottom handle joins. It has a partial mark, first is LG24, then a date 1886, then JDFLL & Sons. and lastly _EV____KETIA. I checked DATEMP for all the 1896 patents, no match and I figured that as I think it is British. The way I think it works is you open the two larger handles, put something in it and then close the handles and then rotate the wheel handle to ??? I hope you are not stumped as I am.
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tubing cutter?
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Yeah, or for cutting wire insulation?
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A really elaborate cigar cutter
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A really elaborate cigar cutter
Heck, yeah.
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Have no idea but that means it's probably a nut cracker.
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I agree with Bill, gotta be a nutcracker.
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You-all don't have all the information if you think the wheel is a cutter, It is not sharp, it is more like a grindstone and nearly 5/16" across the flat. It also rolls along on the flat surface of the lower handle.
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What is the working diameter of the large opening? It could be a lock seam roller for small cans or bottles. Place the lid on, grip it & then roll the wheel around it. Think opposite of a can opener.
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I'm trying to figure out the geometry of the thing. The roller part is pulled 'away' from the gripping area of the "pincers" portion the way it looks to me. As for DATAMP -- the only patents in there are ones entered by the data stewards. Which is a very small segment of the millions of patents granted by the U.S., Canada, etc.
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Once you bring the "something" together between the gripers you then roll it with the top lever.
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So it takes two hands to operate the tool? That means whatever it is working on is firmly attached, or being held in a vise or whatever.
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Combination saw set, nut cracker. thingamabob. and doomaajiggy!
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If it's not a nutcracker, it must be a sawset.
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Combination saw set, nut cracker. thingamabob. and doomaajiggy!
OG you beat me while I was yet typing!
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I don't think anyone is close yet, here are some more pictures. The first one shows the width and flatness of the roller. The second one is from the bottom, shows the width of the slot the bottom curve goes into when the handles are closed and then the roller follows the curve. The third one shows the shape of the curve that when closed the roller follows. There is space between both sides of the top handle and the curve when closed. Playing around with it I put a piece of thin aluminum between the top and bottom and closed it---it cut the aluminum and I rolled out a thin piece of aluminum. Don't know if that means anything.
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Hello Coolford. Is the curved edge sharp enough to be the cutter? I like Al's idea of wire insulation cutter, or something similar. It looks like it would go around something, and the cutting would take place at the curved edge. What I am thinking is cutting the seal around the neck of a wine bottle, (or similar), or maybe that's because I just cut the seal on a wine bottle!!! Sharp enough to cut lead pipe?? Maybe a re-loading tool?? Just my 2 cents (hic), Lou
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The curved edge appears to never have been sharp, and one side or it is rounded off. None of this tool makes sense to me.
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The roller to me would indicate it rolls along a edge or material to do what it does several times per sheet. Being brass it would indicate a soft material like cloth or paper. So what does that mean, I haven't a clue!!
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The wheel is not brass, it is steel, the rest of it is brass except for reinforcement of the lower handle.
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It has a partial mark, first is LG24, then a date 1886, then JDFLL & Sons. and lastly _EV____KETIA.
I haven't found anything similar online yet. Still searching though. Could you post a close-up photograph of the markings please?
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Sorry, I have tried and the markings just do not show. They are faint to begin with and the camera flash does away with them. I have revised the marking however, after looking again and again. What I thought was a J is probably a scratch. So, I now think it is Dell & Sons. The 1886 is the best viewed mark. Lastly, the bottom line may be EV____KETIA, the KETIA part is easy to see. Poking around on e-bay I found a chisel for sale with a C. Dell & Sons mark and have emailed the seller who is in England.---Thanks for trying.
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Stick with it. This is really a stumper.
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Got a reply from the guy in England, firstly he says there is almost no information on Dell & Sons as the company didn't last long. He has never seen this particular tool, but he feels it was used in either leather work or upholstery or both. Says I was lucky to come across the Dell & Sons name at all. Oh well!!!
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How about closing metal staples in leather machinery belts? These Dell guys were from the era of belt powered mills and factories. Quite a lot of mentions of Dell & Sons in Grace's Guide but didn't find anything specific to this tool.
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I have heard the term "belt clipper " used for belt ends.
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Hello, Coolford. How many letters are missing between the EV and the Ketia??
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Looks like four letters.
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Thanks! So that brings it up to 11 letters, I will try some word searches.
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Maybe you could pass something through it such as leather and press some type of ornament into the leather. Or maybe it could be a leather belt and something pressed into it?????????????