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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: amertrac on November 26, 2011, 12:08:19 PM

Title: what the hay
Post by: amertrac on November 26, 2011, 12:08:19 PM

private listing - bidders' identities protected
 this outbid me but my name/number is listed

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: scottg on November 26, 2011, 12:57:43 PM

Its only listed for you Bob
 Nobody else can see it
  yours Scott

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: Papaw on November 26, 2011, 02:19:22 PM

Anyone bidding can see their own bids, but not the names of other bidders.

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: Wrenchmensch on November 26, 2011, 05:43:04 PM

What are you guys talking about, or is it a private matter?

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: amertrac on November 26, 2011, 05:50:44 PM

I want to know what is a private listing how do I know that the piece didn't bring what he wanted so he bid it himself

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: Stoney on November 26, 2011, 06:18:08 PM

I always worried about that, when I was buying on ebay, if I didn't know the seller.

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: Papaw on November 26, 2011, 07:23:56 PM

There is no way to know. Shill bidders and fake bids are there, especially on high dollar items.

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: stillfishin on November 26, 2011, 09:36:48 PM

I think it'd be rather foolish of anyone to bid on their own auction. Not only would they then incur the listing fees but also final value fees and they are back at square one. After all wasn't that their point in listing the item? To sell it? Just doesn't make much sense to me.

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: Ken W. on November 26, 2011, 09:53:00 PM

It's better to have your friends bid it up for you.Having people bid your items can backfire on you. If your buddy wins the bid you just lost your fees. And the only bidder id you will see is your own.If you are the seller,you can see the bidders id.

Title: Re: what the hay
Post by: rusty on November 26, 2011, 11:22:36 PM

Shilling happens at regular auctions too, and it can backfire there as well. When the seller sees his item sold at an auction he expects to get paid for it, and if the auctioneer was the last bidder, he owns it. ince an auction is a standard way of conducting business, with fixed notions on the part of the buyer as to how it will be conducted, and since most sellers don't advertise that they are going to shill the auction, bidding up your own prices  is of course fraud, and doing it across state lines, where the internet goes, makes it something you can go to jail for, tho, that doesn't seem to bother some folks....

I have never understood ebays excuse that private listings are to protect the seller identity, most sellers on ebay are using fictictous names to start with, who cares if joe12345 is the high bidder???