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Title: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on February 22, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
Does anyone know if there is a connection between King Dick and B &S? The wrenches appear to be similar.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-19TH-CENTURY-IRON-ADJUSTABLE-WRENCH-MAKERS-MARKS-/370586370075?pt=Folk_Art&hash=item5648ab401b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-19TH-CENTURY-IRON-ADJUSTABLE-WRENCH-MAKERS-MARKS-/370586370075?pt=Folk_Art&hash=item5648ab401b)
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Papaw on February 22, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
I don't think there was a connection. That style was made by several makers.
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Wrenchmensch on February 22, 2012, 09:05:11 PM
Well, consider this. What does the B.S. imprint on my King Dick military wrench stand for if not Billings & Spencer? (See Shiny King Dick post on this page)
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: benjy on February 23, 2012, 11:54:59 AM
its british standard,,,below is some borrowed info

all but the oldest (pre-WW2) 'Whitworth' nuts/bolts are likely to use the BSF/BSW head size (sometime just marked as 'BS'). As a result, you will sometimes see spanners marked along the lines of '1/4 W 5/16 BS' indicating the jaws are sized for a 1/4" Whitworth bolt, or the next step up at 5/16" for BSF/BSW. The BSW bolts/nuts use the same coarse thread as the original Whitworth, which is suited to soft or coarsely crystalline materials (e.g. aluminium, cast iron), while the BSF bolts have the same thread profile but a finer cut (i.e. higher TPI value) and, with an adequate length of thread engagement, provide a stronger fastener and better vibration resistance for high tensile materia


http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~psc/spanner_jaw.html
this link is useful for brit sizes
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: rusty on February 23, 2012, 03:54:36 PM

Always figured it was 'BS' , everyone knows the military runs largely on BS....

Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Wrenchmensch on February 23, 2012, 09:45:50 PM
Rusty,

I spent 2 years ACDUTRA without experiencing any BS.  Fort Dix, Fort Lee, and Fort Richardson, and out. My MOS was 903.10.  We were part of the anti-Soviet force keeping the bear in his cage.

bob
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: amertrac on February 24, 2012, 05:58:03 AM
Rusty,

I spent 2 years ACDUTRA without experiencing any BS.  Fort Dix, Fort Lee, and Fort Richardson, and out. My MOS was 903.10.  We were part of the anti-Soviet force keeping the bear in his cage.

bob
I spent 18 months dodging iron and steel in korea in 1952/53 was a forward observer made over 30 jumps and the whole damn war was bullshit bob w.
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Papaw on February 24, 2012, 07:09:29 AM
Please don't make this topic any more political. Political discussions have nothing to do with our focus on old tools.
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: rusty on February 24, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
Hmm, Sorry I started this.....

Best let this fade.....
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Wascator on February 25, 2012, 05:16:59 PM
I bought some King Dick hand wrenches a couple of years ago; I bought an old British car and it has mostly SAE bolts but lots of the smaller ones are BS . it makes working on it, ahem, interesting. You certainly don't want to drop any nuts.
Title: Re: King Dick vs Billings & Spencer
Post by: Branson on February 26, 2012, 09:26:50 AM
I bought some King Dick hand wrenches a couple of years ago; I bought an old British car and it has mostly SAE bolts but lots of the smaller ones are BS . it makes working on it, ahem, interesting. You certainly don't want to drop any nuts.

No, and especially with your King Dick.