Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: amertrac on May 17, 2012, 07:09:35 PM
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I have been approached about forming an actual 4 in and under cyber club by those on tool talk . If there is enough interest i will pursue seeking information . my idea is that it would be a closed inventory display club set up with members to display the tools but no comments to clutter the post . each member would display the tool and description. A s far as rules i think if there is enough interest couple of tool talk members could work on it through pms what do you think?
it could include adj wrench either specific styles or all , pliers doe or dbe wrenches. black smith tools( small blacksmiths), auto tools or any tool that is under 4 inches( no fair cutting wrenches in half) let me know on this thread thank you bob w.
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I would be happy to post my 4 and under tools in a 4 & under forum. Unfortunatley I don't have much time or knowledge in setting it up. I could lend some thoughts and comment on ideas brought up.
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it would be the same as posting on a thread. You don;t have to picture one at a time you can put 10 in a picture and under it fill in the description , the format would have to be decided if enough interest is shown one way could be.
FORUM-- 4 UNDER CLUB
MENCHWERNCH
PIC-1
DESC.
PIC-2
DESC.
AMERTRAC
PIC
DESCRIPTION
YOU COULD ADD PIC & DES. IN THR FUTURE bob w
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Let's get at least 6 interested members, and I can establish a separate and private forum for it, no problem.
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Even thoe I dont have many 4 inchers I would be intrested in joining if we do one.
I will have to get pictures of mine thoe
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It would be of interest to me.
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I would be interested if it includes all tools under 4 inches. I only have one adjustable and its asian so no one here is going to buy tickets to see that. I do have some magneto wrenches and other odds and ends though.
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I would be interested if it includes all tools under 4 inches. I only have one adjustable and its asian so no one here is going to buy tickets to see that. I do have some magneto wrenches and other odds and ends though.
This is what I am looking for the input that makes you think . yes i would think that doe .dbe .or combo wrenches should be included along with pliers. specialty tools, levels,planes,or any tool that is 4 in or under the way i feel each member will be responsible for his section as he increases/decreases his inventory we would have to have a minium pieces to make a member. there is a lot of work to be done before it will be on . if it is ok I will make a list of rules then we can appoint several members to discuss and make a sort of charter bob w.
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Sounds good Bob. My only sugestion is that with limited membership it shouldn't require many rules. I don't know much about running a forum though. If the required number of tools is very high I may not even qualify to join. Not sure how many I have.
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I have forward a suggested set of rules to Noel ( he is the boss) when I get them back I will post them and we can have other views from other members .the rules I sent were just a start
they are not in stone but we had to start someplace. bob w.
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I have a few.
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Rules of 4 and under club
Only members of the club can post on the club forum
Tools will be no longer than 4 inches long
Tools may consist of any hand tools approved by a moderator.
You must have a minimum of 6(six) of one type to be posted
Members will maintain their own post only to raise or lower the inventory
There will be no chatter or posts other than changing inventory or description
The inventory will be posted with a picture and description of each tool
Pictures may be up to 10(ten) tools as long as they are clear and has the description
Listed for each piece
If a discussion is needed members will use the general discussion groups on toll talk
open for discussion either here or pm please give us your opinions
the minimum can be changed but I would like to start with one type . i believe it would be better
if you want we can start experimenting with a couple to see what we can do.THERE WILL ONLY A FEW MEMBERS TILL WE GET GOING kinda getting the bugs out . thanks for your cooperation
bob w.
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If you can’t comment on the tools why bother?
Right now I have only (2) 4” adjustables but I have over 50 ignition wrenches.
Everyone has stubby screwdrivers.
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If you can’t comment on the tools why bother?
Right now I have only (2) 4” adjustables but I have over 50 ignition wrenches.
Everyone has stubby screwdrivers.
I intended this to be a display only why look through moies of comments to see the tools
if the majority want comments on the thread you are welcome to take over I will step aside
if you read the rules it says hand tools not wrenches
I have a small collection of ign/gen /generater wrenches and I would be gkad to show them
if you have a cokkection of stubby screw drivers why can't you display them.
thank you bob w.
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There is no reason you couldn't link to a sister thread with comments/discussion about the picture thread...;P
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My suggestion/opinion is no rules ( within reason ) and have a good time, lifes too short.
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My suggestion/opinion is no rules ( within reason ) and have a good time, lifes too short.
Ditto! And eat plenty of fresh fruit and veggies!
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Been thinking on this for a couple days now. I just can't put my finger on it, BUT, something is just wrong with the name 4in & under club. That's my take on it.
Disclaimer: I can name at least 10 people who will sign paperwork stating I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Disclaimer: I can name at least 10 people who will sign paperwork stating I don't know what I'm talking about.
I bet that cost you bob w,
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Sounds interesting. I would be interested in participating.
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You should be able to see it now.
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Gang,
I'm late to the discussion, but would like to participate if it's ok with everyone. I don't think I own any 4&under adjustables, but I do have plenty of tools in other 4&under categories. I'm guessing that when this forum get's up and running, there will be lot's of new 4&under categories that we've never considered before.
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Please include me when you get this going.
Thanks,
Greg
(http://photos.foxgti.com/i.ashx?gallery=1013514&mid=51794799&mt=Photo&standardsize=640x480)
http://photos.foxgti.com/i.ashx?gallery=1013514&mid=51794799&mt=Photo&standardsize=1477x1415 (http://photos.foxgti.com/i.ashx?gallery=1013514&mid=51794799&mt=Photo&standardsize=1477x1415)
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I am not sure a "6 or more rule" would be productive and/or inviting.
I have tools that I have made from scratch, that are the only one in the world. The only one in all of history as well. Genuinely unique.
The smallest Perfect Handle screwdriver ever made would be disqualified?
Anyway you see what I mean.
Plus, how could we ever hope to attract new members if we make requirements on their collection? Everybody has to start somewhere.
yours Scott
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The smallest Perfect Handle screwdriver ever made would be disqualified?
yours Scott
why? have you never seen one 4 inches?
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why? have you never seen one 4 inches?
4" sure. Third from the right is 4" in this picture.
How about 2" ? :^)
yours Scott
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scottg,
The 4&under forum would not prevent anybody from posting any tool of any size in any of the other TT forum/threads.
I think the new 4&under forum simply represents a specialized interest among a growing number of TT members.
It's not the end of the world as we know it... it's more like the beginning of a new bigger world. At least that's the way I see it.
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Is the idea to have some "private" forum where you a member can post collections whereas it is otherwise private and not view able to non-members?
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That is the general idea. Just for posting pictures and lists of your 4 & under tools.
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I am not a serious 4=< collector so have hung in the back while those who were set things up. One thing I don't see is a defintion of 4 inch. I note my one 4 inch marked adjustable is over 4 inches. Does that mean 4 inch + pliars are OK? Anything under 5 inches actual measure? Maybe I am the only one confused.
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I think most Crescent style adjustable wrenches marked 4 or 4" are actually over 4 inches long. I understood the idea was equal to or under 4 inches. Mine seem to range between 4 1/8 and 4 9/16.
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maybe a poll would help
poll one
have each post only have one type
have each post a jumble of tools
poll two
keep the items 4 in and under
keep the items 5 1/2 inches and under
poll three
the minimum of pieces at ten
drop the minimum pieces
poll four
open the thread to all with unlimited discussion
open the thread to all to view only the collectors can post and no chatter
none of the above and remove thread completely
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There is now a poll at the beginning of this thread.
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I see the poll but I dont see this option................open the thread to all with unlimited discussion..........This was one of Bobs suggestions.
If this isnt a viable candidate that how about this one.............none of the above and remove thread completely.........Not sayin Im gonna go that route (OK prob. will if I cant get my way) in my rating but is that still an option?
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I see the poll but I dont see this option................open the thread to all with unlimited discussion..........This was one of Bobs suggestions.
If this isnt a viable candidate that how about this one.............none of the above and remove thread completely........
My thoughts exactly!
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have been approached about forming an actual 4 in and under cyber club by those on tool talk . If there is enough interest i will pursue seeking information . my idea is that it would be a closed inventory display club set up with members to display the tools but no comments to clutter the post . each member would display the tool and description. A s far as rules i think if there is enough interest couple of tool talk members could work on it through pms what do you think?
it could include adj wrench either specific styles or all , pliers doe or dbe wrenches. black smith tools( small blacksmiths), auto tools or any tool that is under 4 inches( no fair cutting wrenches in half) let me know on this thread thank you bob w.
I guess this idea of mine was totally stupid and here by ask Noel to clear the thread and remove my name from the moderators list thanks to the several members that tried to help me set it up
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In an effort to understand before being understood - Maybe it might help to explain the rationale behind it's exclusivity.
I suppose I need to state it to ensure I'm not being misunderstood - I don't think the idea of a focus area for smaller tools is stupid at all. I actually think it is a rather great idea that I would be a beneficiary of. My issue with the current state/implementation is with excluding folks from the thread - that are regularly involved here and that support the site - as I understand it simply because they don't have one, or enough of them.
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If the current 4 & under thread is removed I hope that the posts are moved to the picture thread so that the effort, information and pictures aren't lost to the members on Tool Talk.
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If the members would have been patient the idea was to have the thread open to view for all when we got the wrinkles out.I still think there are enough chatter threads on this forum to keep one busy. A view only thread would not interfere with ones want to talk. If a member does not like the thread it is only a non click to bypass it.There are threads here that I do not have interest in. I just don't look, simple as that.i would just look down a list of pictures and descripions without a bunch of bs in between I am sorry but that is the way I feel apperently I am alpone so I am jumping ship bob w.
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Hey, you don't know until you try it, and I give you 10 extra brownie points for taking the time and effort to try something to improve the forum. :)
I think a small tools collections catagory makes perfect sense for the forum, and there is no reason why it can't be limited somewhat to pictures, the Picture catagory more or less is, tho some discussion occurs there....
The idea of exclusion always rubs people the wrong way, I don't think everyone understood what you were trying to do...
As to discussion, in as much as it's a forum, people kinda expect to discuss things, it is IMHO a weakness of the forum software that there is no way to add normal web pages to the forum itself, there are several things that would make a lot more sense as an information page (such as a collection of small tool pictures, lists of wrench numbers, etc etc) , but the forum can't really do that :(
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I added two more options, and votes can now be changed.
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Quote..........so I am jumping ship ........Dont forget your lifejacket, we dont want you to come up missin :)
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I added two more options, and votes can now be changed.
There you go, I vote for open to all with open discussion
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isnt this all getting a little bit silly,we have a wrench section,blacksmith section etc..,why not simplify it and have a collections section,,that would surely just be a continuation of what we already have on this great site.
just my honest opinion.Ben
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Not a bad idea, Benjy!
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Voting above is useless at this point since the there were more options added after a majority of the people had already voted and one cant go back and change there vote or vote again so the outcome is useless.
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I added two more options, and votes can now be changed.
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Below the poll you will find "Remove Vote" , that removes your votes and then you can vote again.
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I do plan to post some pics in the 4" club. Just been a little busy.
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I have closed the poll and moved the entire thing to the Picture Forum and titled it 6 & Under. It is now open to all.
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Thank-you
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I have closed the poll and moved the entire thing to the Picture Forum and titled it 6 & Under. It is now open to all.
I checked it out It's great --- thanks to ameritrac for having the idea --- even tho it isn't exactly what he wanted -- I give credit to all involved and especially him for initiating the idea. :)