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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: Plyerman on July 23, 2012, 08:52:25 PM

Title: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Plyerman on July 23, 2012, 08:52:25 PM: So I'm a combination tool fool, for those of you who hadn't already figured that out. Here's the latest, an old combo pliers/nipper/wrench/hatchet/hammer contraption. The only markings on it are Peter Ludwig Schmidt and Germany stamped on the side. Anybody have any more details about it?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/old%20iron/PeterLudwigSchmidtcombinationtool.jpg)
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Papaw on July 23, 2012, 08:55:23 PM: No info for you, but I am certainly enjoying your offerings!
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: OilyRascal on July 23, 2012, 08:57:09 PM: hmmmm - my wife is from Germany - her father's name is Peter Schmidt.

Having said that - Schmidt in Germany is about the same as "smith" in the USA :-)

Very nice! Why can't she bring me presents from Germany like this?
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: OilyRascal on July 23, 2012, 08:58:25 PM: oops - I should have offered to contact him on your behalf for assistance should you need it. He is retired and frequently does research on my behalf.
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Plyerman on July 23, 2012, 09:03:17 PM: Quote from: OilyRascal on July 23, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
oops - I should have offered to contact him on your behalf for assistance should you need it. He is retired and frequently does research on my behalf.

That would be great O.R., thanks! Yeah, the only thing I've been able to google up is that the Peter Ludwig Schmidt firm was apparently located in Elberfeld Germany (wherever the heck that is) in the late 1800's.
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: OilyRascal on July 23, 2012, 09:47:43 PM: Quote from: Plyerman on July 23, 2012, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: OilyRascal on July 23, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
oops - I should have offered to contact him on your behalf for assistance should you need it. He is retired and frequently does research on my behalf.

That would be great O.R., thanks! Yeah, the only thing I've been able to google up is that the Peter Ludwig Schmidt firm was apparently located in Elberfeld Germany (wherever the heck that is) in the late 1800's.

My wife was gracious enough to assist me with translation.

Founded in 1790 by Johann Dietrich Schmidt in Sprockhoevel-Westfalen Germany. His son was Peter L. Schmidt. He gave the company to the son, and the son came up with the trademark logo. In 1841 the company moved to Elberfeld Germany. Peter's two sons Johannes Dietrich and Karl Emanaul were made partners in the company. They had an exhibition in Berlin in 1844 where they displayed the tools. They had a world exhibition in London in 1851 where they showed steel, iron, and brass tools including screw taps, files, gimlets, nippers, hammers, vises, shears, planes, saws, locks, scales, hindges, taps, and skates. Another in Paris in 1855 where they got a bronze metal for their saws and files. In 1875 Carl Kaemmerlin joined and started working on exports and was in charge of England sales. Later he left to open C.K. Tools in London. His son, Wilhelm Kaemmerlin, joined C.K. Tools and later took over (in 1935 upon Peter's death) Peter L. Schmidt company. The two companies merged within a short time frame. In 1943 all the locations of the company were destroyed in the war, and were rebuilt in 1947. In 1954 the company transfered to Pwllheli Whales. Today the company is called Carl Kaemmerlin International and is one of the biggest employers in the area.

their current website is http://www.carlkammerling.com

A picture of their logo up registration in 1849.

(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/PeterLudwigSchmidt.jpg)
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Plyerman on July 24, 2012, 05:48:18 AM: Well that's pretty interesting - so the company is still in business today huh? 1790 to 1912, they must be doing something right.

Hmmm, that company logo reminds me of the Mason's (masonic) symbol.
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Bus on July 24, 2012, 10:26:35 AM: Great wrench! I have 20 or so of these small hatchet combination tools, most from Germany. I haven't seen one like yours before with the adjustable wrench on the end of the handle.
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: rusty on July 24, 2012, 06:18:55 PM: The company is also listed in 'Blade's Guide to Knives & Their Values'...So I assume they made knives also ...
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Plyerman on July 24, 2012, 08:15:05 PM: Quote from: Bus on July 24, 2012, 10:26:35 AM
Great wrench! I have 20 or so of these small hatchet combination tools, most from Germany. I haven't seen one like yours before with the adjustable wrench on the end of the handle.

20 or so! Got any pictures of them handy Bus?
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Bus on July 25, 2012, 12:01:46 AM: I found these, no two exactly alike. I know I have a couple more but can't find them.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/message-board/hatchet-plier-com-tools.jpg)
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: Plyerman on July 25, 2012, 09:49:21 PM: Holy Mackeral! You do got a bunch of 'em there Bus. Very impressive collection.

Here's mine. An 8-inch one marked STAHL, with a foil cutter and a corkscrew:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/old%20iron/STAHL8-inchwithknifeandcorkscrew.jpg)

And it's little brother, a 5-inch STAHL:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/old%20iron/STAHL5-inch.jpg)
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: OilyRascal on July 25, 2012, 09:58:57 PM: Thank you both for sharing. I had no idea these even existed.
Title: Re: Peter Ludwig Schmidt combination tool
Post by: 1930 on July 27, 2012, 05:08:40 AM: Can you guys stop posting these photos, I dont need another collection started and Im lovin these combo tools too much already and I dont even own one