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Buying, Selling, and Trading => The Missing Link => Topic started by: swervncarz on August 19, 2012, 09:05:31 PM

Title: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: swervncarz on August 19, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
I'm new to the forum & was wondering if someone could help me with info on this saw. What year it's from would be nice! I searched online but couldn't really find what I wanted.

It is made by H.S.B. & Co, Chicago, there's a small # 10 marked on the blade, right by handle, 3 screws hold the handle to the blade (most others that I saw online had 4 screws), blade is 22" long

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Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: Papaw on August 19, 2012, 09:35:32 PM
Hibbard, Spencer, and Bartlett Hardware   Our Very Best
HSB Time Line
· 1853-54 Brown, Tuttle Co. Hdwe, Michigan Ave * Wm. Hibbard, salesman
· 1855 Tuttle, Hibbard Co. Hdwe, Michigan Ave.* Hibbard joined Tuttle
· 1857 First Fire destroyed hardware building
· 1860 Tuttle, Hibbard Co., 62 Lake St.
And more-  http://www.thckk.org/history/hsb.pdf (http://www.thckk.org/history/hsb.pdf)
1962 Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co. was sold to John Cotter & Co. for the True Value Brand Name
 So, I'd guess your saw is before 1962, but that's all I can tell yoy.
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: john k on August 19, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
The -10- mark is reference to the teeth per inch, tpi.   That was a great company that made fine tools, you have a good saw.  Looking at the medallions, chrome or nickel plate, and the wood in the handle, if it were a Disston, would say definitely before WWII.  Am guessing it was pre-1955, due to the varnish on the handle/tote.  I have one OVB, vs. dozens of Disstons, yours isn't terribly rare, but I'd have grabbed it for sure. 
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: swervncarz on August 19, 2012, 11:35:59 PM
thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: scottg on August 20, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
22 inches makes it a panel saw. This is why only 3 screws.
HS&B were retailers, like Sears or Simmonds, so they didn't make it. They ordered it from one of the saw makers with their name on.
 OVB was Our Very Best, their top of the line.
 Everything I ever had with the OVB mark was top quality goods.
 Not like Sears who demanded a cheaper price since the beginning, and received and sold cheaper goods because of it.   OVB was more like Simmons and their Keen Kutter line.  Top quality from the best makers. 

 It could be a Fitch saw or maybe even an Atkins saw.  But it sure looks like a Disston #16 to me?
 With apple handle and nickle plated screws.
 I have an OVB saw with nickle screws and it has an apple handle too. I suspect mine was Disston made as well.
 
  Apple saw totes were the best saw handle material ever carved. In use they become freakishly soft against the skin. Nothing else does that. Its absolutely like velvet.
yours Scott
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: Merrily de Boer on May 18, 2015, 07:20:15 PM
I have a saw of this description, plus it carries an engraved message. I cannot make out the entire message, but can read "This saw is made of the highest grade crucible........by experienced work...... no superior." Signed by two initials, then "Bartlett." Any information you can give will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: wvtools on May 26, 2015, 06:06:57 AM
If you go to the Disstonian Institute website, you may be able to get a better idea of the date by the handle styling.
Title: Re: Identification help with an old HSB & Co hand saw
Post by: Branson on July 16, 2015, 07:36:43 AM
I'm with Scott on this.  Looks like a Disston made saw, apple wood handle and all.