Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: dimwittedmoose51 on August 22, 2012, 02:42:20 AM
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On a lark, I went to a local small auction near the house MOnday afternoon and thee weren't many tools advertised and that was accurate. Up for grabs thoug hWAS a Stanley Bailey plane with the 3 patent dates stamped in the frame that were circe 1902 and maybe one was 1907. I thin it was a #4. Had the new BRitain logo on the top of the blade. Also a Plumb double bit axe that someone out bid me on. Did score the plane and a small flat of tools that had a red Proto hacksaw in it and another flat that had a Proto screwdriver and a Proto pipe wrench that "mysteriously" disappeared. also scored a small 3 1/2" Columbian vise for $4 as the gal that won the work bench didn't need it.
Anyway, I digress from the title. While iling time waiting for the auctioneer to get to the "good stuff", I was sniffing thorgh the household items and one silverware flat from the kitchen appeared to have a cople screwdrivers in it. I fished them out and two of the 6 in thee were the older yelow plastic handled Protos and in great shape. The table that flat was one went"choice", and I waited for the stuff to get down to $1 or $2, but a gal took that "coveted" flat due to a really old ice cream scoop in there. I asked her if she would sell me the screwdrivers in the bottom of the flat and she had now idea they were in there and she just gave them to me. I told her I'd return the favor someday.....and I hope to have that opportunity.
Bailey/Stanley #4 Plane
Proto #353 Hacksaw
2 Proto Screwdrivers(9832/9822)
Columbian Vise(1035)
Androck screwdriver
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Oh man, there's hardly any of the original finish on the hacksaw blade!
Nice solid haul.
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You may find this interesting.
Type 12. Planes made by Stanley 1919-1924.
All of the features of the previous, except:
The knob undergoes a change in height, and is now much taller than the previous style. This is referred to as a "high knob" in toolie dialect.
The brass depth adjustment nut is now larger and measures 1.25" in diameter.
The lever cap has a subtle change in its shape - it is not as rounded about the edges as the earlier style is. The lever cam is a bit longer than the old - 1 3/16" vs. 1 3/32".
A series of logo changes are found on these planes. All 3 of the logos are the result of the merger between Stanley Rule and Level, the tool producer, and The Stanley Works, the hardware producer. A notched rectangle, in which the word "STANLEY" is stamped, sits over a heart-shaped design, in which the letters "S.W." are stamped. The "S.W." stands for The Stanley Works, and "STANLEY", obviously, stands for the rule and level firm. The heart-shape is a memorial to The Stanley Works long-time president, William Hart. The first version of the logo has "NEW BRITAIN," "CONN. U.S.A." in two lines under the heart, and dates from around 1920. The next version, dating from 1921-1922, just has "MADE IN U.S.A" below the heart, in one line that is longer than the length of the notched rectangle. The final logo, dating from 1923-1935, is identical to the second, but the "MADE IN U.S.A." line is a hair shorter than the length of the notched rectangle. These new logos are know as the "sweetheart" logo in the tool collecting biz.
This isn't in the original type study - Some of the lever caps can be found with the outline of the sweetheart logo cast into the backside. I've only noted one of these planes, a #5, with this lever cap. Its iron is stamped with the first sweetheart trade- mark. Another tool pal of mine, from longuyland, has seen one before. These two examples are the only ones I know of in tooldom. So far, that is.
Again, not found in the original type study - it's about this time that the backs of the cap iron are no longer blued, but are just finished like the fronts, with nothing.
Click here to go the Plane Feature Timeline for this type.
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Bruce: Thanks. I knew there was a reason that someone else was bidding this plane up. He quit at $20. I was hoping to get it for $10 or less since the auction advertised"a few garage items". This one definitely has the New Britain logo on the top of the blade. The other small intricacies I'll have to go to that website you mentioned.
Branny, if Proto made a custom saw blade for this hacksaw, you have confidence in me to find one for a quarter eventually right??? I'm not even sure that wing nut holding it on is the correct one. The inset in the handle is plastic, so I'm thinking it can't be too old, but Google shows nothing about it.
Well tonight i need to unearth the 36" Trimo pipr wrench and the humongous HK Porter bolt cutters...and then I can dig out the Sunday stash and get to cleaning it all up.
OIly, your stuff is in the bottom of the floor of the van, so be patient. I found a cool pair of Vanadium C-man side cutters last night in a strange un marked box. The handles are Pea Green. The tool likely won't cut much, but they are OLD....
DM&FS
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Hey Bruce
Major squinting to see the high knob!! Way to go.
I was waiting for more details before even thinking about guessing the plane type.
I love the sweetheart series!! Collectors often overlook them, so I think they are the best value of all!
That is a nice hacksaw frame too!
And of course, you just can't beat Proto yellows.
yours Scott
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Here is the link to the website that Bruce referenced if you want more information on typing Stanley bench planes.
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/type_study.php
Mike