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Title: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: oldtools on September 18, 2012, 05:45:47 AM
dug-up some old clamps..
feels like a treasure hunt every time I go through my tool boxes..
this time I checked my clamp box, must have ~2 dozen clamps, all sizes..

2ea. C.T. Co Cincinnati Tool Company Hargrave 498-A/B Clamps.
9" & 11" leg (opens to 6.5" & 8.5") Very Heavy Duty, just slide & lock..
Pat.no. 2188257
(Also got a big one somewhere under the house ~5' long)

Aloha, Jerry da OldTool guy
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: clovis on September 18, 2012, 12:29:30 PM
Nice clamps!!!! Those are cool!!!!

Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: rusty on September 18, 2012, 05:15:58 PM

Yup, those have style :)
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Branson on September 18, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
I really like these clamps!
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: oldtools on September 18, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Now I gotta lookup info on Clamps...
& see what other Clamps I have that are of intrest to others..
checked Ebay, can't beleave what they are asking for regular C-clamps?..
don't look vintage or special...
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Branson on September 19, 2012, 09:25:17 AM
Just checked our C-clamps on eBay... Prices all over the place, with some fairly recent clamps starting at higher bids than genuine vintage clamps.
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: HeelSpur on September 19, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Do you reckon they are decorative or built that way for strength.
They are purdy.
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: rusty on September 19, 2012, 08:06:48 PM

I suspect it is more pretty than strength. The tiny amount of metal removed isn't going to make them noticably lighter given how much metal there is, and a solid piece would be slightly stronger in any case.

However, the triangle design looks like a rivited girder , which one upon a time was new, interesting, and thought of as very strong....(Think of the old railroad bridges..)
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: oldtools on September 19, 2012, 10:59:43 PM
Looks like the design was for lightening without compromizing the strength, like lightening holes..

similar clamps; 1st for $42 without pad?. 2nd 2 for $79. 3rd. catalog see middle clamp.. "Quick Open"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hargrave-500-A-500-B-Bar-Clamp-C-T-Co-USA-17-Long-Antique-Tool-/190703212994?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c66cc19c2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Antique-Hargrave-500-A-Bar-Clamps-17-Length-C-T-Co-USA-/190728205836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6849760c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Hargrave-Pony-Brownie-vintage-C-CLAMP-rare-tool-Ad-/150903978955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232293fbcb
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: anglesmith on September 20, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Interesting "Quick" acting clamps.  On a side note, Does any one else react negatively to the parting out of catalogues! seems like vandalism for profit to me!! I certainly wouldn't buy or display any "rare" genuine catalogue pages.
Graeme
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Branson on September 20, 2012, 07:52:56 AM
I suspect it is more pretty than strength. The tiny amount of metal removed isn't going to make them noticably lighter given how much metal there is, and a solid piece would be slightly stronger in any case.

I got another explanation.  Think of the savings in metal.  Over a few thousand of these clamps, those holes are going to add up to a bunch of metal for making more clamps.
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: 1930 on September 20, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
Interesting "Quick" acting clamps.  On a side note, Does any one else react negatively to the parting out of catalogues! seems like vandalism for profit to me!! I certainly wouldn't buy or display any "rare" genuine catalogue pages.
Graeme
I agree, you should see what some guy is doing with our history books!

Neat but also a shame
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Branson on September 20, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Interesting "Quick" acting clamps.  On a side note, Does any one else react negatively to the parting out of catalogues! seems like vandalism for profit to me!! I certainly wouldn't buy or display any "rare" genuine catalogue pages.
Graeme

Yeah, I do.  Not that anything I say will accomplish anything.  People have been cutting pictures out of books for a very long time.  I've seen hand tinted steel engravings that had been ripped out of rare books.  Frame 'em and hang 'em on the wall until the next interior decoration fad wants different colors in the parlor.  Then out they go, the books long lost.

This is going to continue until the books are considered worth more than their pictures.
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: oldtools on September 21, 2012, 06:53:24 AM
Can't beleave anyone would buy one page from a tool catalog from 1962 for $9.94???

They just rip a page out & sell it? noticed several "one page" on Ebay.
Guess they feel they get more $$$ selling 30 pages for $9.00 each, then a 30 page catalog??
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Branson on September 21, 2012, 08:56:15 AM
Can't beleave anyone would buy one page from a tool catalog from 1962 for $9.94???

They just rip a page out & sell it? noticed several "one page" on Ebay.
Guess they feel they get more $$$ selling 30 pages for $9.00 each, then a 30 page catalog??

Yep.  Nobody's going to buy that catalog for $180.   

LOL!  For a lot of people, 1962 was a way long time ago, maybe people were using stone tools...
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: Papaw on September 21, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
Quote
1962 was a way long time ago
Heck, I was only 20 years old in 1962!
Title: Re: more odds & ends Clamps
Post by: anglesmith on October 01, 2012, 02:07:20 AM
1962  So was I!! Thank you Gentlemen  I'm glad I'm not the only one that reacts to such "profiteering"!
Graeme