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Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: Brophy on October 13, 2012, 11:15:41 AM

Title: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Brophy on October 13, 2012, 11:15:41 AM
This wrench was in a $5 quart basket of tools I found at a yard sale this morning....

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/brophpix/old%20tools/003-3.jpg)

I knew Peugeot Freres (Peugeot Brothers) made handplanes and woodworking tools but I've never seen wrenches made by them. And with such strange ends....any ideas what the heck they would be used for?

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/brophpix/old%20tools/002-2.jpg)

...Rob
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Papaw on October 13, 2012, 11:42:49 AM
Yes, we've seen wrenches so marked, but maybe not that one. Looks like a ratcheting open end.
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: lbgradwell on October 13, 2012, 01:18:41 PM
There was a thread on those on the old, lost site...

Although people sometimes use them as ratcheting wrenches, they were actually intended as an early type of a flank-drive design. "SURPANS" is meant to be "sur pans"; that is "on flanks"...

They were included in the toolkits of Peugeots (maybe the 203 & others) of the time.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/peugeot_quality_plaque_1936small.jpg)


New Britain offered a very similar wrench as the "Nut Master" and patented in 1954. I've wondered if the NB is a copy of the Peugeot, or vice versa?

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/newbritain-nonebetter.html#ndf518 (http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/newbritain-nonebetter.html#ndf518)
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Neals on October 13, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
Any info on the middle pair of pliars? I have never seen anything like them. Can't picture what they would be used for other than the wire cutters on them.
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Brophy on October 13, 2012, 01:44:24 PM
Thanks LG and Papaw!

I had not seen one before and must have missed the previous thread.

Neals...they are marked Vaughan & Bushnell, don't know anything else.

...Rob
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: EVILDR235 on October 13, 2012, 04:38:03 PM
I wanna see more of that PLvmb wrench. 

EvilDr235
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Brophy on October 13, 2012, 04:56:53 PM
I wanna see more of that PLvmb wrench. 

EvilDr235

Here's a shot of the whole $5 haul....

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/brophpix/old%20tools/001-5.jpg)

I'll have to dig it out if you want a specific shot, it's already been tossed in this drawer....

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/brophpix/old%20tools/g7.jpg)


...Rob
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: oldtools on October 13, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
nice score for $5.,
35+ pieces, saws, adj.wrnch, oldies, etc...
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: HeelSpur on October 13, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
Those pliers are awesome. 5 bux for all of that, I'm jealous.
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: john k on October 13, 2012, 07:29:46 PM
That must of been a BIG quart.   Very good group I would be proud to take home.   Nothing there that isn't really interesting.  Bottle wrenches with the double heads, right?  2 very savable chisels, and that top saw is quite old, very good stuff all around. 
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: Brophy on October 13, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
   Nothing there that isn't really interesting.  Bottle wrenches with the double heads, right?  2 very savable chisels, and that top saw is quite old, very good stuff all around.

You're right...most of the stuff is pretty neat.

Even more interesting (to me anyway)...A lot of the tools were manufactured in this area....the saws are J Flint and TF Shurly from St Catharines, some wrenches are ETF, and McKinnon from St Catharines, and early Gray from Toronto.

...Rob
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: rusty on October 13, 2012, 08:33:28 PM

>J Flint and TF Shurly from St Catharines

With the big arrowhead?

It's odd, I would figure a *few* Canadian made saws would make their way down to New England, but I never see any ...
Title: Re: Wacky French wrench...
Post by: scottg on October 14, 2012, 01:34:23 PM
Yikes sandbag!!!  Look at that loot!!
  It was interesting enough before, but now??

Really desirable wrenches!
 Look at the rip teeth!! Panel rip? It looks short.
  Looks like a 12 or 15" head on a 10" crescent!
The "gas" pliers look to be early hand forged!! 

 No idea what those pliers in the middle that don't close, is all about? None
I can see they open even wider, and close even less, squeezed.
   
 Outstanding for any price, but at 5 you just suck and no two ways about it!
  yours Scott