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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: HeelSpur on November 18, 2012, 02:50:52 PM

Title: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: HeelSpur on November 18, 2012, 02:50:52 PM
I've never seen one of these before but I'm sure some of you have.
Is the point the normal size or is it worn down (length wise)?

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Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Papaw on November 18, 2012, 03:58:40 PM
Never seen one myself.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Neals on November 18, 2012, 04:03:01 PM
New one to me. Seen a couple of home made ones years ago. A nail set in a handle.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: john k on November 18, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
At various times I have seen dozens of empty evap. milk cans and every time they had been opened with an V type can opener, so this is a new one on me.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: rusty on November 18, 2012, 05:21:57 PM

Yours matches several other I found around and about the net, cept perhaps that yours looks a touch dull on the point.

I did not see any in better shape otherwise, seems the bottom of the wood handle gets beat to death in general..

The point is probably short so you don't accidently go through the side of the can...

Nice kitchen tool :)
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Mel Larsen on November 18, 2012, 05:50:35 PM
I had forgot about those, but I remember now.  We had one when I was very small.  Back in the 70's my wife and I used to go to old mining camps and search the dumps for old bottles, I remember that all the old milk cans had round punched holes in the tops made by such a tool.
Mel
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: HeelSpur on November 18, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
Found some of these on ebay, the more expensive ones are in better shape, but I guess I done alright for $4.

I see that their points are a little longer, so I guess its pretty well worn.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=pet+milk+can+opener&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Bill Houghton on November 18, 2012, 09:06:50 PM
All of them I've seen are short like this.  Probably served to keep the kid who was using it to open the cans safe, too.

We always used a church key*.  I never saw one of those until I was an adult.

*I've become increasingly conscious in recent years that things I thought were normal and everyone knew aren't anymore.  Must be a sign of the passage of time...or something.  Anyway, church keys look like this and were essential devices before pop-top soda/beer cans:

(http://beerunion.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/churchkey.jpg)

They were giveaway advertising items; every danged store and many other businesses offered them free.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: BruceS on November 18, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
And yardsticks used to be freebees too.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: oldtools on November 18, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
They work great! punch the holes & covers the can to prevent cream from drying in holes.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Aunt Phil on November 18, 2012, 10:39:28 PM
That handy little tool is the work of the Devil's R&D Department.

You use that sucker when you're not wide awake and punch a hole in the web between the thumb & index finger and it hurts BAD for at least 4 days no matter how long you soak it in Epsom Salts.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Nolatoolguy on November 19, 2012, 03:12:48 AM
Ive Never seen one like that, Its cool thoe.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: amertrac on November 19, 2012, 05:39:22 AM
They work great! punch the holes & covers the can to prevent cream from drying in holes.

We would never leave any food or liquid in the can once it was opened. we were told that acid from the can would poison you once it was exposed to air. don't know if it was true or old wives tale but we did not do it and I still don't    bob w.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: rusty on November 19, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Depends what is in the can.

Acidic fruits can dissolve the tinning on the outside of the can, (the inside of cans with acidic food are coated with an enamel or other substance)

Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: amertrac on November 20, 2012, 09:10:38 AM
must be old wives tale but i still do it. just like when you spill salt   bob w.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: oldtools on November 20, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
I think Old Wives Tales are based on facts!  when you open a can that breaches the protective coating inside the can & don't refrigerate.
just like damaged cans should be checked for bloating & thrown away, could have started botulism.
this was proberly more of a problem before refregeration or better can coatings.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Mel Larsen on November 21, 2012, 11:11:04 AM
Like I said before, we used to search the old dumps for old bottles, these dumps were 1890's early 1900 type dumps. One thing I noticed was that most all the tin cans were sealed with some sort of solder or lead.  And I don't think they had any sort of liner in them. 
Mel
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Branson on November 22, 2012, 08:05:43 AM
Like I said before, we used to search the old dumps for old bottles, these dumps were 1890's early 1900 type dumps. One thing I noticed was that most all the tin cans were sealed with some sort of solder or lead.  And I don't think they had any sort of liner in them. 
Mel

The oldest tin cans *were* soldered.  Lord Franklin's doomed expedition carried extensive canned goods.  Unfortunately, they were soldered with lead, and the entire crew succumbed to lead poisoning.  A couple of decades ago, the graves of some of Franklin's sailors were found in the permafrost.  Autopsies showed that all had lethal amounts of lead.   A dump of cans from the expedition was also discovered, which confirmed the use of lead solder.

Lined?  Nope -- just tin plated iron sheet.  I don't remember any kind of lining in the '50s or '60s.
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: 1930 on November 23, 2012, 05:54:36 AM
Like I said before, we used to search the old dumps for old bottles, these dumps were 1890's early 1900 type dumps. One thing I noticed was that most all the tin cans were sealed with some sort of solder or lead.  And I don't think they had any sort of liner in them. 
Mel

The oldest tin cans *were* soldered.  Lord Franklin's doomed expedition carried extensive canned goods.  Unfortunately, they were soldered with lead, and the entire crew succumbed to lead poisoning.  A couple of decades ago, the graves of some of Franklin's sailors were found in the permafrost.  Autopsies showed that all had lethal amounts of lead.   A dump of cans from the expedition was also discovered, which confirmed the use of lead solder.

Lined?  Nope -- just tin plated iron sheet.  I don't remember any kind of lining in the '50s or '60s.
This is interesting, is there are article printed somewhere online that I could read telling the whole story?
Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: Branson on November 23, 2012, 07:52:20 AM
>This is interesting, is there are article printed somewhere online that I could read telling the whole story?

Absolutely.  Wikipedia has an entry that covers a lot of ground.  I was most familiar with the Beechey Island exhumations,  which were astonishing for their preservation.  The Beechey Island survey was in 1984 -- 1986.  Hundreds of discarded cans showed the lead solder used, but later research implicate the water storage for the high concentration of lead found in the bones and soft tissue.

An article on one of the soup cans, and the lead content of  the soup it still contained can be found at:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Franklin+Expedition+Ship+Found&view=detail&id=843AE2006F718EE374541CFF8016A6F10782FCEE&first=226

A good general article can be found at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14847091

Another at:

http://www.victorianweb.org/history/franklin/franklin.html

Title: Re: Canned Milk Tool
Post by: 1930 on November 23, 2012, 10:56:10 AM
Very interesting, thanks