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Title: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 02:18:13 AM
An old worn out Motorcraft 2150 or Autolite 2100 which are a 2 barrel carb that look like this. (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/ChokeIssue4_zps4a6b57a7.jpg)

What I specifically need is the electric choke assy ( the bulb assy you see on the left ) for my truck. If any of you guys have any local salvage yards that you frequent I would appreciate the help. Here in FL everything old is getting crushed, maybe its that way everywhere.

I search on-line and I cannot find any for sale, maybe thats because no-one wants them though since it is 2 barrel.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: OilyRascal on December 20, 2012, 05:47:44 AM
Stating known applications might help.  If I recall correctly this was a 302 but don't remember the year range.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: eddie hudson on December 20, 2012, 06:09:07 AM
Do you need the choke? (black plastic) or the whole assembly that bolts on to the carb?
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: mikeswrenches on December 20, 2012, 08:31:19 AM
My guess is that one off a 4-barrel would also work.  Ford would have used as many interchangeable parts as possible.

Maybe the guys on the GG forum could offer some help.  Just a thought.

Mike
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: fflintstone on December 20, 2012, 11:16:52 AM
http://www.carburetion.com/ford2v.htm

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=motorcraft+2150+choke

the internet is your freind. embrace the dark side.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: TexasDeuce on December 20, 2012, 11:57:19 AM
Hey 1930. Reach out to this guy. He is here in Texas and has been restoring carbs for a long time.

He is selling his carb resto business but I'm pretty sure he has what you need.

Burke Young, Red Bow Restorations
903-776-2298
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: bonneyman on December 20, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
Can't help you with your specific request but I just discovered the same thing about my '86 Toyota carb. The electric choke "warmer" assembly is no longer made. So, when it goes, I'll be jury-rigging the thing.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: OilyRascal on December 20, 2012, 05:29:30 PM
Here is my pile of "spare" 2b carbs off Ford's - I think all Holley.  Checked them they either don't match your models or have the tag missing.  Put on your bifocals and let me know if you see something you need.

(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_232416_.jpg)
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: rusty on December 20, 2012, 05:48:27 PM

Might be a stupid question, but....
The 2150 lists 3 different types of choke systems, manifold heat, manifold heat with electric assist, and full electric choke.....


2c
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:39:56 PM

Might be a stupid question, but....
The 2150 lists 3 different types of choke systems, manifold heat, manifold heat with electric assist, and full electric choke.....


2c
I have manifold heat now, dont want that as the tube is missing and I do not have stock manifolds with the inlet for the tube. I could lay tube next to manifold but I dont like the looks, I am looking for the full electric choke. I think that maybe Derek has it there.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:43:37 PM
Here is my pile of "spare" 2b carbs off Ford's - I think all Holley.  Checked them they either don't match your models or have the tag missing.  Put on your bifocals and let me know if you see something you need.

(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_232416_.jpg)
I think you have what I need Derek, I have been told that Holley bought the Autolite 4100 (4bbl version of 2100) design from Ford in the late 60's.

Can you please send me better ( clearer ) pictures. I will try and start identifying now but its hard when they are in a pile like that. Thanks
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
Do you need the choke? (black plastic) or the whole assembly that bolts on to the carb?
Actually, unless I am misunderstanding you the choke is the metal flapper and the black plastic is the cup that encases whatever form of choke actuator was used. I need the cup and its internals that actuate the choke.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
My guess is that one off a 4-barrel would also work.  Ford would have used as many interchangeable parts as possible.

Maybe the guys on the GG forum could offer some help.  Just a thought.

Mike
You are right but its easier at this point to possibly narrow down what I need by sticking with a certain application.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
http://www.carburetion.com/ford2v.htm

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=motorcraft+2150+choke

the internet is your freind. embrace the dark side.
Thank-you, this may be what I am looking for, I will possibly contact them
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
Hey 1930. Reach out to this guy. He is here in Texas and has been restoring carbs for a long time.

He is selling his carb resto business but I'm pretty sure he has what you need.

Burke Young, Red Bow Restorations
903-776-2298
Thanks, looks like I may have it covered though at this point, will remember this contact though if need be.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Can't help you with your specific request but I just discovered the same thing about my '86 Toyota carb. The electric choke "warmer" assembly is no longer made. So, when it goes, I'll be jury-rigging the thing.
You can buy a universal manual kit from Napa but be forewarned that for at least my application it did not even come close to where my standards are for what I will allow on my vehicle
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: OilyRascal on December 20, 2012, 06:54:26 PM
Let me know what view helps best and I'll try for better pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 20, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
Let me know what view helps best and I'll try for better pictures tomorrow.
I am posting what picture you have shown on another forum and I think there are guys there that can identify which will work best. Will let you know, thanks
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 21, 2012, 01:35:39 AM
Hello Derek, this is the reply I received ...........All the carburetors except the bottom left are Autolite 2100s or a newer version of the same. If any of these have the electric choke parts you are looking for then you are probably in business.............Now the only question is which is any good and how quickly you can get it too me.

I will send an e-mail and take it from there. Thanks to everyone that has helped
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: eddie hudson on December 21, 2012, 07:34:11 AM
Do you need the choke? (black plastic) or the whole assembly that bolts on to the carb?
Actually, unless I am misunderstanding you the choke is the metal flapper and the black plastic is the cup that encases whatever form of choke actuator was used. I need the cup and its internals that actuate the choke.

Close, the choke is the "cup" and the internals together. They are rivited together and are not sold separately. You can probably get the correct one for your application from rockAuto.
Make sure you measure the diameter, there are different sizes, I don't remember if the Autolites are the same as the Motorcrafts.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: Lostmind on December 21, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
There should be a number in the center of your choke cover( Cap) on the outside , to identify it.
You may be able to use other numbers , but will have to be adjusted -rich or lean to work with your carb. All covers from that model should be the same size.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: Bill Houghton on December 21, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Can't help directly, but we were able to convert the carb on our 1972 Chevy pickup from automatic to manual choke with a conversion kit from the auto parts store.  You have to learn how to work a manual choke, including to shut it down as the car warms up; but nothing generations of drivers didn't learn.  If your state insists you keep meeting smog tests with your vehicle, that won't work; but, if you can make the switch and don't find a reliable used part, you might consider that.
Title: Re: I need to find
Post by: 1930 on December 21, 2012, 04:34:26 PM
Thanks for the replies, I was able to find what I needed.