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Title: Rare Disston 344 Metal and Wood Saw
Post by: phillie on January 05, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
I picked a rare DISSTON 344 saw for cutting wood and metal. Does anyone know a value on these? Or any other information? There is an old post on this site at http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=1991.0  that will show a picture. Mine is not in as good a shape as the one on the post. Thanks
Title: Re: Rare Disston 344 Metal and Wood Saw
Post by: john k on January 05, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
Price depends a lot on condition, and the depth of the pockets of the collectors.  But for more info there is the saw site, DisstonianInstitute.   He won't tell you the price but has a good bit of information on these fine saws.  So, is it straight, no kinks?   Teeth missing?   Condition of handle and screws,  any old repairs?   Condition is everything.   
Title: Re: Rare Disston 344 Metal and Wood Saw
Post by: Branson on January 06, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
I wrote to the Disstonian Institute about the one I found.   I got the following three responses from Erik:

1) This is in the 1932 catalog:
The Disston No. 344 Hand Saw for Wood or Metal is made for cutting soft
meal placed over wood; iron bolts; nails imbedded [sic] in wood, etc.
Blade of Disston steel, high temper, taper ground. The have a slight
set.
Beechwood handle, varnished edges, three screws.

24" blade, 12 ppi, 6 3/4" at heel, 2 1/8 at point. $31 per dozen.

It was intended to do the job of a Sawz-all.

2) Thecatalog illustrations show the 340 and 342 with 4-screw handles with
waterproof lacquer finish. The 344 has 3 screws with varnished edges, a
downgrade, I'd say. The 240 is similar to the the 342 in its purpose,
to cut like a hacksaw in steel. The others were discontinued
altogether. I think the changeover from 3xx to 240 model numbers was
around WWII. Your saw has a Disston Phila medallion, I'm guessing.

3) The 1914 catalog shows a hand hacksaw which is identical to the 340 with
no model number. The 1923 catalog has Nos. 340, 341, 342, 343 hand hack
saws. No. 343 is for cutting kalamein, which was a soft metal put over
wood. The teeth could be set on the 343. 340, 341 and 343 were
available in lengths from 16 to 30 inches.

The same catalog shows backsaws for metal. No. 440 cut steel or iron
with lengths from 20 to 32 inches, available with 4 or 5 inch width.
441 was for copper, 442 for metal trim, 443 for kalamein.

I described the 1932 catalog offerings last time. The 240 was sold
after WWII. The saws changed over the time from 1914-1954. Disston
tried out different models. Apparently some did not sell and were soon
discontinued. After the war, Disston offered a much narrower range of
saws than earlier. That trend started in the late 1920's and continued
for the remainder of the company's history.
Title: Re: Rare Disston 344 Metal and Wood Saw
Post by: Branson on January 06, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
I picked a rare DISSTON 344 saw for cutting wood and metal. Does anyone know a value on these? Or any other information? There is an old post on this site at http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=1991.0  that will show a picture. Mine is not in as good a shape as the one on the post. Thanks

Shortly after I found my 344, there was one offered on eBay.  It went for something over $50.  It's the only one I've seen for sale so far -- it's a reasonably rare bird.
Title: Re: Rare Disston 344 Metal and Wood Saw
Post by: phillie on January 06, 2013, 12:14:07 PM
Thanks for all the information. The disstoninstitute medallion page dates it from 1917 to 1940 with it probably being prior to 1928 because there is no D in the model number.
The condition of my saw is good for its age; straight, no breaks or repairs, no missing or broken teeth, markings are faint, screws and medallion good condition, handle has some issues...loss of finish, nicks and scratches. I will put it on E-Bay tonight and see what happens.

Thanks again.