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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 08:44:54 AM

Title: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 08:44:54 AM
What would you guys think is a fair price for the grinder to have been paid, I dont think I stole it but think I gave a fair price. I am wondering how I did. Runs good, quiet motor, no damage that I can see. Pretty good size and heavy, no vibration

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/Picture284_zps4b3eca1f.jpg)

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/Picture283_zpsdd8fbc88.jpg)
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ken W. on January 13, 2013, 10:38:33 AM
I would gladly give $50.00 without hesitation.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 13, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
The model No is the grainger P/N and will still come up on the grainger web site. But it is shown as no longer available. The picture shown in th catalog is a little different than yours. It must be the last one they sold.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=1z707&op=search&Ntt=1z707&N=0&GlobalSearch=true&sst=subset

Yours is very old based on the postal code Chicago 48  and it is in seemingly good shape --- nice find.  It will clean up  nicely
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on January 13, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
I'd gladly take it off your hands.... pmail if you want to part with it!!


DM&FS

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 04:46:13 PM
You guys must be worried that you will hurt my feelings, you wont, if I had paid 100 for it I think I would  have had a good deal. I know Dayton makes a heck of a product so it will last my lifetime most likely.
I am going to keep it moose, the guy wanted 85 I told him I was going to offer 50, he didnt seem insulted and so I told him 60 was a high as I could go. He was very cordial, even let me borrow his aluminum dolly to roll it out to the car un-attended.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 13, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
It is a great grinder --- Hope you get a lot of use out of it --- I have a very old westward grinder exactly like your Dayton.. Foud out years ago that it was made by Dayton also for Grainger.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: scottg on January 13, 2013, 05:19:50 PM
This is a beautiful grinder.
 The other day someone was asking about one with paper thin wheel guards and churchkey toolrests.
Wheels close to the motor with little work clearance.
  I tried to explain that a grinder just like this, all cast appointments, plenty of space between wheels, is what we all really want.
 This one is only missing the eyeguards which were steel framed and heavy themselves.

 60 was a killer deal! I would have taken it in a heartbeat at that price, and I don't have the 60 bucks to spare!
 yours Scott
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: OilyRascal on January 13, 2013, 05:37:47 PM
I'll give you $75, including the truck it's sitting on :)

Seriously - nice find.  I'm actively searching for a good used grinder myself.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 06:40:22 PM
This is a beautiful grinder.
 The other day someone was asking about one with paper thin wheel guards and churchkey toolrests.
Wheels close to the motor with little work clearance.
  I tried to explain that a grinder just like this, all cast appointments, plenty of space between wheels, is what we all really want.
 This one is only missing the eyeguards which were steel framed and heavy themselves.

 60 was a killer deal! I would have taken it in a heartbeat at that price, and I don't have the 60 bucks to spare!
 yours Scott
Hey Scott, if you know me than you know I am going to have to find the guards you speak off ( watch for my new post :) ) if you have a picture of what the correct guards would be for this thing please post them.
I am surprised that you noticed the width hard to tell in the picture, that kinda what turned me on as well. Stupid question but I am only guessing what the trough in the front may have been used for. Clue me in if you know
Thanks
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 06:44:51 PM
I'll give you $75, including the truck it's sitting on :)

Seriously - nice find.  I'm actively searching for a good used grinder myself.
I have another one, I think it may be a Dayton as well but much older, it is smaller though so I dont think its what you are looking for.

I guess I will have to either find it a home or maybe Ill mount some brass on it for light duty cleaning.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 13, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
It is a great grinder --- Hope you get a lot of use out of it --- I have a very old westward grinder exactly like your Dayton.. Foud out years ago that it was made by Dayton also for Grainger.
I sure will use it once I find how I want to mount it.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: OilyRascal on January 13, 2013, 07:11:21 PM
...............but I am only guessing what the trough in the front may have been used for. Clue me in if you know

to hold a bit of cooling water would be my educated guess
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: rusty on January 13, 2013, 07:54:16 PM

Yup, that's yer dipping water.

Gawd only knows what they were thinking putting it right under the electric power switch tho....
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 13, 2013, 09:28:57 PM
This is a beautiful grinder.
 The other day someone was asking about one with paper thin wheel guards and churchkey toolrests.
Wheels close to the motor with little work clearance.
  I tried to explain that a grinder just like this, all cast appointments, plenty of space between wheels, is what we all really want.
 This one is only missing the eyeguards which were steel framed and heavy themselves.

 60 was a killer deal! I would have taken it in a heartbeat at that price, and I don't have the 60 bucks to spare!
 yours Scott

I have had good luck using 1/4" Lexan it's impact resistant very tough and doesn't discolor. The first set I made was 8 years ago and still in lear and good condition. Just find the mount points, cut Lexan to desired size, make a small metal support bracket where your fasteners will be, drill and, mount.orks great for me and ten times better than the originals.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 14, 2013, 05:06:48 AM
Where were you able to find the Lexan? I have had this grinder (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/Picture285_zpsdf55b247.jpg) for quite a few years, Champion, it did not have the guards ect so I eventually went to harbor freight, bough a cheap grinder ( maybe 15 dollars back then ) and converted the needed pieces.

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on January 14, 2013, 09:16:36 AM
Most any larger city will have one or more businesses that deal in plastics only.  In Little Rock I dealt with a company called Cope Plastics and they were more than willing to sell me the scraps off big cuts of ABS, PE, etc.  Not sure if they are a nationwide chain or not, but the yellow pages might have listings for pastics wholesalers and if you find a company and they don't want to mess with you, they would likely know where to send you for our Lexan.  DSomeone on ebay may be selling scraps too, who knows....

YMMV

DM&FS

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: scottg on January 14, 2013, 11:26:07 AM
If you don't live in the city, McMaster-Carr.
 www.mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com)
Take your pick of lexan or any one of 22 other polymers.
 yours Scott
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: rusty on January 14, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Not acrylic, it shatters on impact, you want a  polycarbonate, it is available with scratch resistant surfaces also...

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 14, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
It's been a long time since I bought any and don't remember where. I think it was at home Depot. You can get it at plastic suppliers, Grainger, or similar outlets. And I think you can get it at Hobby/Craft stores. I bought a 36" x 36" piece and still have enough laft that I will never need to buy any again.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 14, 2013, 12:11:29 PM
Not acrylic, it shatters on impact, you want a  polycarbonate, it is available with scratch resistant surfaces also...

It is pretty tough stuff. I does not shatter tho, It will crack if it is hit it VERY hard --- almost has to be intentional. JMHO
more Lexan info  lex·an 

/ˈlekˌsan/
Noun
A transparent plastic (polycarbonate) of high impact strength, used for cockpit canopies, bulletproof screens, etc.

http://www.ehow.com/about_5033151_lexan-made-out.html
 
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on January 14, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
When I was wearing rigid orthotics, they were made of Lexan and I may have cracked one pr. in like 20 years.

DM&FS

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: rusty on January 14, 2013, 06:34:08 PM
>It will crack if it is hit it VERY hard

True, it's not indestructable ;P
It will also do strange things if it gets caught in the tooth of a table saw....

lexan/acrylic - I probably caused more confusion that help, point was , the stuff at home depot will be acrylic unless you look for the other stuff, it is cheaper ....

1930 - I may have some cutoff's floating around, but it will be a few days before I can go look.
meanwhile, how are you going to mount them? If you have no frame, you can drill the thicker stuff....

Or you could just buy some safety glasses ;P
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: 1930 on January 14, 2013, 06:37:50 PM
I am not sure how I am going to mount them, I guess I have not gotten that far, I was hoping someone might have a picture of how they were mounted originally, I need to see what hardware I am missing.
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: OilyRascal on January 14, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
If it were me I'd be looking for a scrap Exacto magnifying stand with the multi-swivel arms and re-use all the handy little swivel joints and extensions within. 

Something like the picture attached.

Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 15, 2013, 12:57:50 PM
>It will crack if it is hit it VERY hard

True, it's not indestructable ;P
It will also do strange things if it gets caught in the tooth of a table saw....

lexan/acrylic - I probably caused more confusion that help, point was , the stuff at home depot will be acrylic unless you look for the other stuff, it is cheaper ....

1930 - I may have some cutoff's floating around, but it will be a few days before I can go look.
meanwhile, how are you going to mount them? If you have no frame, you can drill the thicker stuff....

Or you could just buy some safety glasses ;P

I do not use a table saw to cut Laxan or plexi. I make a custom scraper from a utlity knife blade by making a flat cutting edge where the point of the blade is then at the same point I make a small hook shape to meet the  the flat front edge. this will scrape through even Lexan. Use a straignt edge. After I have gone about 1/3 of the thickness I clamp it to my work bench edge with a piece of straight wood or metel on top. The whack it with a rubber mallet.

Wham it will break just like cutting glass but with a little more force. I've had 99% success. If you want to avoid the chance of cracking it just continue all the way thru with the home made scraper.

If you do use a saw make it a very fine blade. I would use a scroll saw if I were to do it that way. Definately not a circular. Just my preference tho ---
Title: Re: Grinder
Post by: Ietech on January 15, 2013, 01:04:15 PM

lexan/acrylic - I probably caused more confusion that help, point was , the stuff at home depot will be acrylic unless you look for the other stuff, it is cheaper ....


Lexan is - polycarbonate  --   it  is NOT  acrylic 

 See link   http://www.ehow.com/about_5033151_lexan-made-out.html   it's pretty interesting.