Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lbgradwell on January 16, 2013, 12:20:41 PM
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A local fellow runs a "de-cluttering" business. He helps people get themselves organized whether they be relatively normal or complete hoarders. He assures me there is great demand for his services...
In his line of work, he often comes out with stuff that needs to be gotten rid of! I bought an odd lot from him last year & saw another listing yesterday afternoon.
This is what $15 got me:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/15Score1_zps22352cbe.jpg)
There were also a couple of files (not pictured) that I grabbed primarily because I wanted the nice handles that were attached.
That's a nice Swedish Sandvik Högboo 8PPI Crosscut Saw that may have been used once. They were from the early or mid 1980s, I believe.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/15Score2_zpsd5722505.jpg)
The Exact Level & Tool Mfg. Co., Inc. was once situated in High Bridge, NJ. They were acquired by Hyde Tools in 1983 and quickly disappeared! This is a 2' aluminum model No. A-24:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/15Score3_zpsa28c2a13.jpg)
Here's a shot of the original factory swiped from an interesting local blogger:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lH0nHrUznEQ/UJfRJmZp4nI/AAAAAAAAFhQ/ziCq6leIZmk/s640/Exact+Level+&+Tool+factory.jpg)
Then there was a Stanley Brick Hammer of dubious quality and a nice old Vlchek Ball Peen with a cracked handle - unmarked but ~16oz.:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/15Score4_zps5bce0977.jpg)
There were two metric DOE wrenches too. The first was a 20mm x 22mm Heyco from W. Germany and the other an Italian Beta in 25mm x 28mm. It's the only 28mm wrench I have since I divested a South African Gedore recently and, to my surprise, both ends have been used proving that something in the world actually uses a 28mm fastener. Beta supplied the Ferrari tool-kits & while the No.55-Series is still in production, quick research indicates this example is 30+ years old.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/15Score5_zpse4e50120.jpg)
I'll keep the saw, the file handles and the Beta wrench, but the rest of the stuff may end up back on kijiji or held as trade fodder!
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That's some pretty nice clutter there, idea's are swirling in my head now.
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very nice saw.
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>something in the world actually uses a 28mm fastener
Bicycle hubs are just aboue the only thing on the planet that are 28mm...
I love the photo og the building. Any idea what the occassion is? I see people in uniforms? (And Earl's brass band ;P)
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Bicycle hubs are just aboue the only thing on the planet that are 28mm...
I love the photo og the building. Any idea what the occassion is? I see people in uniforms? (And Earl's brass band ;P)
Bicycle hubs, you say... Good to know! I don't suppose you know what makes? I know I have a Park 32mm for my headset.
No idea regarding the festivities. Presumably something to do with WWII. Maybe that's why Earl Melo's Girl Band is filling in!
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I really like that saw, and that pein hammer, and level.......nice grab bag.
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It just occurred to me that a bow rake and a spading fork were also included; both pretty much new. The business end of the spading fork was made in Austria, of all places...
Forgot those items as I put them both in the garage as soon as I got home!
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Maybe that's why Earl Melo's Girl Band is filling in!
A closer look shows that to be Earl Held's Girl Band.
For a moment, I thought I was on to something, but the band existed from 1936 - 1972, so no narrowing of dates can be gleaned from this...
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The general style of the cars in the background is consistant with your WWII guess...
It is truely sad I didn't notice all the band members were girls....;P
Must be gettin old and blind...
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You didn't even pay enough to cover the value of the saw. It looks like the handle is plywood, which makes it a later Sandvik. I have one of those, and recently ran across another that has a solid wood handle. Hard to beat Sandvik tools.
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It looks like the handle is plywood, which makes it a later Sandvik. I have one of those, and recently ran across another that has a solid wood handle.
Good eye; it is indeed plywood. Do you recall the dates for such production? I know Sandvik certainly produced some of those orange-plastic-handled saws before Snap-on acquired the Bahco brand (as I have one)...
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Good eye; it is indeed plywood. Do you recall the dates for such production? I know Sandvik certainly produced some of those orange-plastic-handled saws before Snap-on acquired the Bahco brand (as I have one)...
I wish I knew dates, but, no, I don't. I just know I appreciate the quality of all the Sandvik tools -- especially the chisels -- I've run across, and can't let myself walk away from them.
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If you like the Sandvik chisels you should check out the Erik Anton Berg chisels that they most likely evolved from.
https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+anton+berg&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=kgQ&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1&q=erik+anton+berg&sa=X&ei=49_4UMuIGNKCrQHI0YDgCQ&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.aWM&fp=94e32a4cea89f529&biw=1366&bih=624 (https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+anton+berg&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=kgQ&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1&q=erik+anton+berg&sa=X&ei=49_4UMuIGNKCrQHI0YDgCQ&ved=0CC8QvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.aWM&fp=94e32a4cea89f529&biw=1366&bih=624)
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They most certainly look like the Berg chisels. The Eskilstuna, Sweden chisels I've seen look the same pretty much. My most recent acquisition is a
3/4 inch Jernbolaget that is identical to the Sandviks I have. Cost me either 50 cents or a buck -- can't remember which. Of course, Bahco bought out both Berg and Jernbolaget around 1959. And Sandvik bought out Bahco in 1992. Snap-On bought Sandvik's hand tool division in '99.
I thought it odd that one fellow on the site you gave insisted they were not to be struck, Admittedly, most are slender, but all the factory handles have a ring on the end of the handle, precisely so they could be used with a mallet. He also said he ground these with a 20 degree bevel... Except for my mortise chisels, all my chisels have 20 degree bevels. But the Sandviks and Bergs I grind to 15 degrees, and they will hold that very well. Not even my Buck Bros or D.R. Bartons will stand up with a 15.
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I have actually been to Eskilstuna twice; had a friend who lived there...
Of course, Bahco bought out both Berg and Jernbolaget around 1959.
Did Bahco acquire Berg from Sandvik? Both the chisel & plier lines appear to have been part of Sandvik...
An incestuous industry to be sure!
1935:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Sandvik1935_zps5bd293e9.jpg)
1948:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Sandvik1948_zps999c2f24.jpg)
1956:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Sandvik1956_zpsded45bbd.jpg)
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Did Bahco acquire Berg from Sandvik? Both the chisel & plier lines appear to have been part of Sandvik...
It looks like Bahco acquired both Berg and Jernbolaget, back in '59. Then Sandvik acquired Bahco in '92, so '92 would be the year that Sandvik got Berg.
Whether a chisel is Berg, Jernbolaget, or Sandvik ... I have to look for a manufacturer's mark to find out who made them. They all look nearly identical. My first ones were Sandviks. I just went out and looked at the two that came in a box of tools that came with my 1949 ShopSmith. I'd paid no attention to the maker and assumed they were Sandvik made. But no. Both are Jernbolaget chisels, and almost certainly from before Bahco's acquisition of Jernbolaget and Berg. They (and my Sandviks) look exactly like the tang chisels in the 1935 Berg advertisement. They both have remnants of their paper labels on the handles exactly like the paper labels shown in the 1948 Berg ad, except the labels have the Jernbolaget anchor logo and the name, Jernbolaget.
The quality is the same among all that I have. Incestuous? Just a bit. But Eskilstuna has been making tools for a few hundred years, so maybe we can write the resemblance off to a standard design adopted by Eskilstuna tool manufacturers.
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I'd like to trade for that Vlck hammer, what is your brand of trade choice?
Skip
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PM sent Skip...
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That looks to be a very fine saw. I've heard tell Swedish steel is among the best. Good find.