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Title: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 17, 2013, 11:49:07 PM
Union Hdwe. Co hacksaw, Mossberg wrench, Rivet set, Perfect style screwdriver, two grease guns like those used in auto tool kits, Miniature ball peen hammer, and a conductor's punch (keystone shape).

The perfect style screwdriver is marked USA and "5". Slightly bent, but easily fixed. Handles are in good shape, will need slight tightening. The junction between shank and handle is forged in a hexagon profile. Maybe to add a wrench for torque??

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/538146_530968370281619_505568126_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 18, 2013, 04:56:53 AM
Is the wooden handled gun marked model 7-C, I think I am looking for an A and a C. C being the longest
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
I'll have to check it for you, 1930. Haven't got it cleaned up yet.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: Plyerman on February 18, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Looks like a good bunch of treasures there keykeeper. Naive question though; why on the Mossberg wrench do you suppose the one "head" is so much larger than the other, even though the wrench openings look to be about the same size?
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 10:43:06 PM
Yes, they are close.....5/8 and 11/16.

I would say it is because they may have used the same blanks for more than one size combination, allowing more "meat" to work with. The openings look to be milled in, there is a little "step" at the bottom of the flat cuts.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 19, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
I'll have to check it for you, 1930. Haven't got it cleaned up yet.

No problem, if you do want to part with it I prefer a no clean deal, if you look under a light they should be pretty pronounced letters, I am pretty darn sure its a 7-C comparing its length to the hacksaw. I have a 7-B and that is a nice size to have.

Let me know, thanks
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: Plyerman on February 19, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 10:43:06 PM
Yes, they are close.....5/8 and 11/16.

I would say it is because they may have used the same blanks for more than one size combination, allowing more "meat" to work with. The openings look to be milled in, there is a little "step" at the bottom of the flat cuts.

Ahh, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 19, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: 1930 on February 19, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
I'll have to check it for you, 1930. Haven't got it cleaned up yet.

No problem, if you do want to part with it I prefer a no clean deal, if you look under a light they should be pretty pronounced letters, I am pretty darn sure its a 7-C comparing its length to the hacksaw. I have a 7-B and that is a nice size to have.

Let me know, thanks

It's a 7-B. Guess it's of no use to you.

But I gotta ask, why not clean it up? It's so black with age-old grease, I don't see where that matters much. The grease is hardened, nasty, and downright detracts from the gun, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 19, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
Quote from: Plyerman on February 19, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 10:43:06 PM
Yes, they are close.....5/8 and 11/16.

I would say it is because they may have used the same blanks for more than one size combination, allowing more "meat" to work with. The openings look to be milled in, there is a little "step" at the bottom of the flat cuts.

Ahh, that makes sense.

Just a WAG (Wild-A$$-Guess) on my part. I surmise that the blanks were stamped out, then sizes milled, then the shanks stamped with the size, stock numbering and trademark info.

Someone will be along shortly to correct my assumption, I'm sure. Wrenches really aren't my forte, I just like them.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 20, 2013, 04:39:04 AM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 19, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: 1930 on February 19, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: keykeeper on February 18, 2013, 11:19:40 AM
I'll have to check it for you, 1930. Haven't got it cleaned up yet.

No problem, if you do want to part with it I prefer a no clean deal, if you look under a light they should be pretty pronounced letters, I am pretty darn sure its a 7-C comparing its length to the hacksaw. I have a 7-B and that is a nice size to have.

Let me know, thanks

It's a 7-B. Guess it's of no use to you.

But I gotta ask, why not clean it up? It's so black with age-old grease, I don't see where that matters much. The grease is hardened, nasty, and downright detracts from the gun, in my opinion.
I am not even sure what your plan are with it but if you were willing to part with it I prefer to clean things up my way which might be different than yours, that is all.

Anyway I was wrong in that I have the 7-B and the 7-C I guess I am lacking the 7-A to complete my collection.

I can get one on e-bay but the buy it now prices are higher than I am willing to pay and am only looking for one casually.

I was mistaken in that the 7-C is the short one, 7-B is longer, I guess I do not remember if the A is longer or shorter still.

I really like these guns because of the combination of wood and metal. I would still be interested in your gun but you would do better on e-bay for a price if that is what you are after. Either way thanks

Thanks again
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 20, 2013, 06:38:07 AM
Quote from: 1930 on February 20, 2013, 04:39:04 AM

I would still be interested in your gun but you would do better on e-bay for a price if that is what you are after. Either way thanks

Thanks again

????? Did I miss something? I never said anything about putting this grease gun on eBay. I was just curious about cleaning versus not cleaning. I know what they are worth on there, I was going to part out my collection of them at one time, BUT decided not to.

I have a decent little collection of these type guns, and have cleaned them all up in one way or the other. At one time, I posted photos of them on here. http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=7188.0

Still don't know why you assume I'm looking for a better price on ebay. For that matter, I was going to offer it to you if you needed it, but I sense some hostility at this response.

I'm all about putting tools into the hands of those who enjoy them, at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 20, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
Aaron, I almost said hostility was the last thing on my mind but in fact that never crossed my mind, I enjoy talking about what interests me and that is all I was doing, sorry that you decided to see it the way you did.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: keykeeper on February 20, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
Well, talking about what interests you is fine, but somewhere in there, for some reason, you did bring up selling it on ebay. I NEVER DID.

Fact is, I don't understand the "sorry that you decided to see it the way you did." remark.

I didn't DECIDE to do anything in the way I responded. I was just stating that I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SELLING THIS GUN. I have the utmost respect for everyone on here, and will help anyone fill, complete, or otherwise finish any tool collection or kit they are trying to build, and not try to rape them on the price.

To be honest about it, I find it a little abrasive that you try to lay this on my shoulders with that remark and make me look like the bad guy for saying something about it.

Good luck in your research and endeavors, 1930.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 20, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
Aaron you maybe should try harder to understand that people on these forums come from all walks of life and none has the same background/ubringing therefore you should not  expect everyone to phrase things exactly how you think they should be phrased.

I myself have learned that unless someone is coming right out and blatantly insulting that I should  try and give them the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best,  probably what  they said that bothered me was not too personally/intentionally hurt me.

I am an un-educated oaf, I try to hide this by using big words at times but when it comes down to it I have very little background in speaking/typing etiquette.

I am not sorry for this.

I will not and am not going to apologize for insulting you if that is what you feel I did, you read what I said and you yourself decided to take it the way you did. I have read and re-read what I typed and I see no offense within it.

I will however once again say that I am sorry that you have decided thru what I have said that I was trying to be hurtful to you, it was again not my intention.

I am done with this now, thank-you for your time.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: Papaw on February 20, 2013, 06:56:28 PM
Put it to rest guys. A simple misunderstanding should not get us all riled up.
Title: Re: Goodies I scored Saturday while picking a little....
Post by: 1930 on February 21, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
Aaron sent me a decent P.M and this was my reply, I am only posting it because if he was confused I would think chances are someone else might be and Id prefer that at least in this instance someone did not think I was trying to be a jerk, I am still baffled to be honest by the misunderstanding but what can I do.............


Aaron, I only brought up e-bay prices because many of the tool talk members seem to buy and sell on e-bay, they seem to buy stuff just to sell it on e-bay, quite the contrary to what you were thinking of me I was suggesting that maybe you were not aware of how much they have sometimes sold on e-bay for, I was attempting to do just the opposite of what many people would do in first notify you ( assuming you were not already aware ) that if you were to attempt to sell it on e-bay than you would almost certainly get more money for it going that route.

Believe it or not that was it, zilch zippo notta, I was trying to be honest and forthright with you, I try to do this when I have the chance because I enjoy the opportunity to show other people in the internet world that contrary to popular belief not everyone is a scammer, not everyone will take advantage of a situation.

I felt insulted when you attacked me, I felt insulted because I was trying to do the right thing, I did nor know whether you sell on e-bay or not and I still see nothing wrong with assuming you do sell there. I never suggested that you were looking for top dollar, I only suggested that you would get more money out of the gun if you were to decide to sell it their than if you were to sell it too me.

If you decided to sell it there it would not have been a problem for me, I know and understand that people have to feed their families, believe me Aaron if it were something that I just had to have I would have said I will give you more for it than you would get on e-bay or something of that nature, I do not need the gun, I would like to have it because the finish on mine is poor but its just not something that I have to have that is why I suggested that you would do  better on e-bay.

I hope it is clear now and you understand. I only take offense that you right away assumed I was trying to hurt you, that was the furthest from reality.

I hope you can understand my side better now. Its not about having the last word Aaron. Its about peace and caring for one another.



BTW if anyone out there ever runs across ANY literature at all ( outside of some magazine article that some scab has ripped out of a perfectly good magazine just so he could make two dollars ) concerning Graham Brothers trucks I WILL give you more money for it than you could get on e-bay!!