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Title: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 13, 2013, 05:52:34 PM
I have a file or attachment that was e-mailed to me quite a while back in PDF form, the scans are a disaster but the book ( partial book 30 pages  ) is very rare, no-one knows where the original is and I doubt I will ever see an original in my lifetime.

I need to clean up these scans now and can do this with my paint program but I cannot figure out how to save the images individually non PDF, I need them to be a regular J-peg.

They are all grouped together as of now in one file if that makes sense.

Is this a big deal for anyone here if I were to forward the original e-mail, they fix it and send it back too me.

I have printed out all the images and can re-scan them and save them as J-peg but then I am dealing with an even crappier image than the image that was sent too me.

I am assuming that this is just a few clicks of a button for one of you computer whizzes but if this is too big of a deal than just let me know that it is quite complicated and I will look into other possibilities.

I do not want the book re-produced ( and sold )  Thanks
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: Plyerman on March 13, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
I'd be happy to take a crack at it for you. Maybe just one page to start with so we can see if it works? I'll send you a message with my email address in it.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: rusty on March 13, 2013, 08:10:46 PM

There is a program called imageprinter than will take anything that you can print in an application and save it on the disk as a image file(s).  Essentially it looks like a printer to the application (like say, adobe reader) and just sends the output to a file instead of a real printer.

It is a little clumsy, but it's a fairly easy way to convert multi page PDF's into picture files...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/imageprinter/

Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 13, 2013, 08:24:17 PM
I'd be happy to take a crack at it for you. Maybe just one page to start with so we can see if it works? I'll send you a message with my email address in it.

I cannot send just one page, I need it too be converted to Jpeg one page in separate pages though, I will forward the mail to you, thanks for the offer
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 13, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Thanks, I know there is always something that can be bought to do things but this is just my hobby, for fun,  I have to spread the peanut butter pretty thin
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 13, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Forwarded to you Plyerman
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: rusty on March 13, 2013, 08:31:32 PM
PS: Imageprinter is free :)
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 14, 2013, 04:18:49 AM
PS: Imageprinter is free :)
Ok, I will look into this than and maybe it will be of future use, looks like Plyerman got this round though, thanks again
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: lbgradwell on March 14, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
If Plyerman can't work it out, I'd be happy to take a look too...
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 14, 2013, 04:19:43 PM
If Plyerman can't work it out, I'd be happy to take a look too...
I think Plyerman must still work during the daytime, have not heard back from him yet but I know he does have it worked out cause he sent me two pages as sample. Thanks though will keep you in mind if Plyerman ( God forbid ) has somehow ended up in the big tool box in the sky.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: Plyerman on March 14, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
Heh heh no, I'm still around. Seems like no matter how long I work each day my wife can spend it faster than I can make it.


Sent you a couple of emails just now, I'll have more coming your way in a bit.

Bob
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 15, 2013, 06:19:29 AM
Do any of you guys know what any of the writing on the front of this book might say, the image at the top looks oriental, it might give me an idea of where the book was sent and where there was once an old D.B

Next handwriting looks Arabic but that is just a guess.

Some of the text appears to me to be mathematical equations, looks like maybe a carbon paper residual entry, I keep thinking that if I hold the page to a mirror I will see things more clearly but no luck.

Even if you can confirm what language the text is written but cannot read it than I will be able to find someone that can. I would like to know what it says. Thanks
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: Branson on March 15, 2013, 07:37:15 AM
What I can see clearly is in a Sanskrit based writing system -- I'm betting on India as the source.  There are several languages spoken and written in India, with Urdu and Punjabi using an Arabic based writing system, but the standard is Sanskrit.   Check out:

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/sanskrit.htm
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: WiebeLC on March 15, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Could the number in the top line of handwriting be a serial number? I make it out to be 4141991. That would make sense considering the printed text says the part list is for serial number 3558101 and up.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 15, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
What I can see clearly is in a Sanskrit based writing system -- I'm betting on India as the source.  There are several languages spoken and written in India, with Urdu and Punjabi using an Arabic based writing system, but the standard is Sanskrit.   Check out:

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/sanskrit.htm
It always amazes me what you people know, I have never even heard the word Sanskrit before, I dont know what it means but I will in a few minutes, thanks, thats a start
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 15, 2013, 04:29:03 PM
Could the number in the top line of handwriting be a serial number? I make it out to be 4141991. That would make sense considering the printed text says the part list is for serial number 3558101 and up.
Thats a very strong possibility, good eye, I will let you know when I know
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: Branson on March 16, 2013, 09:09:01 AM
Sanskrit preserves the most ancient writings in any Indo-European language  -- 1700–1100 BC.  The Indo-European language group includes languages we know well -- Germanic, Latin, Celtic -- as well as languages we don't think of usually, like Persian and Hittite.   Proto Indo-european dates back about 10,000 years, before the modern IE languages diversified into those with which we are familiar.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 16, 2013, 09:10:42 AM
Sanskrit preserves the most ancient writings in any Indo-European language  -- 1700–1100 BC.  The Indo-European language group includes languages we know well -- Germanic, Latin, Celtic -- as well as languages we don't think of usually, like Persian and Hittite.   Proto Indo-european dates back about 10,000 years, before the modern IE languages diversified into those with which we are familiar.
Thanks for the info, I am going to proceed to my nearest 7/11 today for a full decipherment of text :)
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 17, 2013, 06:43:41 AM

There is a program called imageprinter than will take anything that you can print in an application and save it on the disk as a image file(s).  Essentially it looks like a printer to the application (like say, adobe reader) and just sends the output to a file instead of a real printer.

It is a little clumsy, but it's a fairly easy way to convert multi page PDF's into picture files...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/imageprinter/
Hello Rusty, can you explain to me how I would go about downloading this for free, I see where they offer two different deals, both of them buy now, I see where they are offering some partial download deal but these will leave behind a watermark on the image which obviously is not going to work for me so what am I missing?

 If it turns out this is not for free like you thought can you think of any other possibilities that I might get these few pages done. Thanks

Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: rusty on March 17, 2013, 08:10:34 AM
Skip the 'pro' version, top right corner of ci's page is the free version (doesn't edit pdf's)

http://code-industry.net/imageprinter.php

(Sorry, the paid software wasn't there back when I downloaded the last time, pointing sorceforge at a pay ware package is kinda cheesy, sigh)

Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 17, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
I had to approach quite a few people but finally found the right woman, I was told by various middle eastern s that it was an old dialect, one guy and gal said Urdu, another said southern India, others said other places they all could read a little and their answers corresponded but none could read it all until but we ran across some young woman from Napoli (? )   You will have to excuse my spelling, I am only guessing on alot of this.

She said Napoli was Southern, between India and China if that makes sense, she was from there.

The top symbol is called a Shree ( ? ) it is meant as some sort of a sign of respect or god, sorta like Mister or Sir or Maddam but not quite, that as close as we could get with her.

Diectly below that it reads from Right to left, I found it interesting that our 9s are their 1s. Anyway left to right reads         9 4 / 4 /11/ and then I could not even begin to pronounce or spell the word but it reads Start from that day or that number, I do not know and she did not know if that meant serial number. So again Right to left as they read it Start from that day  94/4/11.

To the left and almost center is Carvini, ( ? )  they all agreed on that. It means car factory or car dealer.

Just opposite of that is Hazidi ( ? ) It means being in the present. I have no idea what was meant by that.

Lower left corner is a mans signature but she could not quite make out the name.

Very interesting in my opinion, I have never met an un-friendly middle eastern regardless of the bad rap they get cause of a few.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: Plyerman on March 17, 2013, 09:39:06 PM
Wow, that was some great detective work there! Cool that you found folks willing to help too.
Title: Re: PDF files
Post by: 1930 on March 18, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
Wow, that was some great detective work there! Cool that you found folks willing to help too.
Thanks, I rarely have trouble finding people willing to help, I believe it is how you approach someone.

 Thanks again for converting the files as well. I have twenty two e-mails this AM with several hundred pages of data I have been sent all at once from a couple of different people I am working with that all need some editing done but I will at least open and review all the images you sent last night tonight and verify they are all there and in good order.

I sure looks like they all came thru though at this point. I appreciate your time