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Title: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: HeelSpur on May 04, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
Picked this up today and the threaded screw down part looks like the bicycle inner tube repair part that I picked up last year. Its cast iron and screws on to a can or jar like a lid. Is it for repairing inner tubes?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img844/4792/001tzr.jpg)
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(http://imageshack.us/a/img835/2623/004uof.jpg)
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Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: Papaw on May 04, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
Sure looks like a vulcanizer. Not sure about the threaded bottom, unless it was to thread on to a bottle of glue. That would be unsafe, since the glue was set alight to promote bonding to the rubber.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: HeelSpur on May 04, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
Your right papaw, found this one here on this site but mine has female threads and this one male.
http://pages.neeleysantiques.us/153/PictPage/3924044045.html
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: Papaw on May 04, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
There ya go! That one shows a cap with a scraper for preparing a tube for a patch, and says the cavity is for storing patches.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: Billman49 on May 05, 2013, 03:22:18 AM
See http://www.google.com/patents?id=W_BaAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=1970698&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=1970698&f=false

Portable Repair Vulcaniser - Harold H Hanson - filed October 14 1932 - granted August 21 1934 - this one differs from the one shown in the patent drawing
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: amertrac on May 05, 2013, 06:39:27 AM
wow does that bring back memories  rough it up, glue, patch and light it off .  bob w.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: mikeswrenches on May 05, 2013, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: amertrac on May 05, 2013, 06:39:27 AM
wow does that bring back memories  rough it up, glue, patch and light it off .  bob w.


It sure does!!  Used those kits regularly on my bicycle tubes.

Mike
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: bonneyman on May 05, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
I would love to learn more about this old school kind of repair. I've heard of hot patching, but have no idea what materials were used or how. Any website referrals?
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: Papaw on May 05, 2013, 04:41:41 PM
Even with modern patches, I have scraped the rubber, spread the glue, lit it with a match or lighter, let it burn just a bit- then apply the patch. Makes the rubber accept the glue better, I think.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: ron darner on May 06, 2013, 01:22:18 AM
I seem to recall some patches that had a coating on the side away from the tube, with a sort of release paper over it as received.  The tube would be scuffed up with the little grater-looking thing from the kit (often the thin steel lid of the cardboard tube container), and glue applied to both tube and patch; after it started to set up, they were put together, the release paper removed, and then the clamp [or, "Cast Arn Thingy"] used to hold everything in place; the coating beneath the release paper was what got lit on fire.  Having only a few small contact points, the legs of the clamp, gave free access to air.  It burned, but not a big flame; afterward, a sort of traveling front would move around on the surface to complete the burning (like what you see if you burn a newspaper consisting of multiple sheets in contact).  In other words, it WASN'T the glue that was being lit on fire, but a special coating on the opposite surface of the patch.
There may have been multiple kinds of patches, each avoiding other manufacturers' patents; I would only have seen the kind my dad used.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: Batz on May 06, 2013, 01:55:02 AM
Quote from: amertrac on May 05, 2013, 06:39:27 AM
wow does that bring back memories  rough it up, glue, patch and light it off .  bob w.
Me too, it was the in thing for bicycles when I was a kid. Glue was cheaper and I used it more often.

 
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: oldtools on May 06, 2013, 03:29:22 AM
Yupp!! brings back memories, I think I still have some old patch sets (diamond type), probably won't burn now, too old.
Title: Re: Cast Arn Thingy
Post by: 1930 on May 06, 2013, 05:26:04 AM
Quote from: bonneyman on May 05, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
I would love to learn more about this old school kind of repair. I've heard of hot patching, but have no idea what materials were used or how. Any website referrals?

Here is a discussion.......  http://forums.aaca.org/f169/vulcanizing-tire-patches-tube-repair-268643.html

I would also like to hear more about the different experiences but I am most interested in procedures of the clamping/pressing machines used back in the 20s
vulcanizing tire tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QE_GYa3dg4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x5Iy50VstI